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Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:03 am
by emiliorv
teiloh wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:25 pm
emiliorv wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:06 am
teiloh wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:27 am
Lets make it so Sorc IW hits for 200 then, then Shades of Death can be a 50% damage boost!!
FBB is the spell showed in the SS that you posted, and its the spell wich triggered that funnel power ticks => so that numbers are correct looking at that SS.

Shades of death its a ST spell, its trash compared to funnel power (and still its a 13point skill and funnel power 5pt...) and never ever will boost the dmg of IW by 50%...
Fire Breath, a DoT is a huge part of BW damage, as are various proccing tactics and Flames of Rhuin, none of which trigger Funnel Power.
First you came here posting a SS to show the "***** dmg from Funnel power" but after the maths done over that SS show that you are wrong you came with another pile of BS....what % of your dps (as BW) came from fire breath in a fort defense Mr numbers?? or in a keep defense? The only numbers you bring here show that funnel power adds between +11% to +33% to DD dmg.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:07 am
by emiliorv
Ramlaen wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:49 pm
emiliorv wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:29 pm
Ramlaen wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:10 pm
Spoiler:
One would think you would have mentioned a unique ability that wins fights, like Rampage, given the context of the discussion. Perphaps because that list of unique abilities isn't quite as long.

isn't?
Both sides have plenty of unique abilities (IMO)
Both sides have a some unique abilities, far fewer than in the past due to (mostly) one way mirroring of specific abilities that had big impacts on the outcome of fights.

The WP wounds buff is a red herring in the context of this topic.
Only one way mirroring?? any order char got any from destro mirror? any?

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:45 pm
by Gatto
engi phosphorous shells got reworked and mirrored from magus counterpart tzeetch's firestorm.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:27 pm
by Neverever
SW got an even better pounce just because MSH got it also. And its dmg is not removed.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:39 pm
by Sundowner
It will be better to make a list of each faction's unique abilities now, it will be more ilustrative. I remember someone doing it tho in other topic

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:20 pm
by CeeJay89
Neverever wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:27 pm SW got an even better pounce just because MSH got it also. And its dmg is not removed.
Shadowstep
-65ft
-20s cd
-25% bonus defense

Squig Leap
-65ft
-10s cd
-3s of 35% increased mobility
-Can be specced for no cooldown

The purpose of pounce is to quickly reach your target. In what world in SW's better? Mind you, SH's is supposed to be like WL, which is also better than SW's.

Not only that, but SH doesn't have to worry about the primary pounce targets suddenly being carried away by the wind for 5s. Oh, and has a melee snare to follow it up with.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:21 pm
by Ramlaen
Gatto wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:45 pm engi phosphorous shells got reworked and mirrored from magus counterpart tzeetch's firestorm.
An unlike Magus cannot move while channeling. Why? 'Because of the animation'.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:25 pm
by Charon
Ramlaen wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:21 pm
Gatto wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:45 pm engi phosphorous shells got reworked and mirrored from magus counterpart tzeetch's firestorm.
An unlike Magus cannot move while channeling. Why? 'Because of the animation'.
yee exactly.. long ago there was debate how to balance both versions but nothing was implemented so far.

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:35 pm
by NSKaneda
Charon wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:25 pm
Ramlaen wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:21 pm
Gatto wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:45 pm engi phosphorous shells got reworked and mirrored from magus counterpart tzeetch's firestorm.
An unlike Magus cannot move while channeling. Why? 'Because of the animation'.
yee exactly.. long ago there was debate how to balance both versions but nothing was implemented so far.

Swapping animation (and description) between phosphorous shells and strafing run would give the skill magus mobility while being in line with already existing assets ;)

Re: Patch Notes 09/12/2020

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:24 pm
by agemennon675
Neverever wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:27 pm SW got an even better pounce just because MSH got it also. And its dmg is not removed.
Better pounce with dmg ? Where when ?? I have alot of questions here ??????? Whats that better pounces name please share