Patch Notes 4/11/2017

[Manatikik]

Given all our WLs are playing WOW, has anyone tested out the new Guardian in a proper group setting?

We envision a tanky guardian spec being somewhat viable, if pet has a good amount of parry via FC and IB 25% (with decent base WS). Does pet still die fast in Guardian?

Currently it's not viable. There are a few bugs to work out with new Guardian that's currently making it do less damage than before the changes. It is tankier though. I think without full Dom with defensive talis Guardian will remain for solo roaming in ORvR or cheesey double WL ORvR builds.

[Athergic]

Is it possible to getstats for squig pets as well? I would love to see their individual stats, great update.

Thank you.

[Foomy44]

.getstats does not seem to work on my cat. In regards to

-Skills that scale off of Toughness or Wounds will now use reduced crit chance as crit chance (only applies to WL's leonine frenzy)

is leonine frenzy supposed to crit? Just opened up my dps meter, 879 hits of it, 0 crits, my crit ain't crazy high but I at least had 3% from ruin shoulders and should have gotten plenty from people with higher than 0% chance to be crit. Also where does your cat get it's crit rating from? Based off my crit or something else? I probably won't have much crit if going for a tanky guardian build, so hoping there's another way to boost my pet crit.

[Gerv]

- Public Quest decay has now been implemented. 15 minutes of no contribution will result in your contribution being reset.

Since RvR lakes are pqs as well, are they also effected?
i.e. through the taking of scenarios whilst partaking in RvR -
For example if my grp was the roaming of a zone in off hours + not finding a fight, then receiving a sc pop, taking, returning to the zone and if 15 mins exceed then losing contribution?

I see the point, creating stick to encourage fights and not turtling or AFK'ing on mail boxes, just curious if this clashes.

Gerv.

[Secrets]

- Public Quest decay has now been implemented. 15 minutes of no contribution will result in your contribution being reset.

Since RvR lakes are pqs as well, are they also effected?
i.e. through the taking of scenarios whilst partaking in RvR -
For example if my grp was the roaming of a zone in off hours + not finding a fight, then receiving a sc pop, taking, returning to the zone and if 15 mins exceed then losing contribution?

I see the point, creating stick to encourage fights and not turtling or AFK'ing on mail boxes, just curious if this clashes.

Gerv.

They are not affected. Two different systems.

[Natherul]

Hotfixes are live now again

[Pacso]

Given all our WLs are playing WOW, has anyone tested out the new Guardian in a proper group setting?

We envision a tanky guardian spec being somewhat viable, if pet has a good amount of parry via FC and IB 25% (with decent base WS). Does pet still die fast in Guardian?

Well we tried for many hours, and altough these nerfs hit hard, we've seen worse. All you have to do is forget guardian path, and retalent to hunter/axeman.

[Brizio]

Given all our WLs are playing WOW, has anyone tested out the new Guardian in a proper group setting?

We envision a tanky guardian spec being somewhat viable, if pet has a good amount of parry via FC and IB 25% (with decent base WS). Does pet still die fast in Guardian?

Well we tried for many hours, and altough these nerfs hit hard, we've seen worse. All you have to do is forget guardian path, and retalent to hunter/axeman.

No, you can't. Cause with the changes it also affect Lion dps.

What is happening is that the Lion DPS is soooo bad now (around 350 str) that, for example, coordinated strike (used to be the strongest combo damage with the lion) is now junk, cause Lion hits for around 30 damage. So basically WL, that already had bad sustained DPS (ap problem) is even worse now because of the boost nerf, on hunter/axeman.

My suggestion is to become a crappy pull bot, try go Loner or go play other char.

[Foomy44]

Yeah noticed the crits started up after I posted this, very welcome change. I'm pretty low RR and crap gear but I am very much enjoying Guardian, I don't have any experience with bursting people down before they can stand up from the knockdown so maybe my PoV is different than most other WLs but Guardian seems plenty viable to me. I am tanky as hell, my pet does very decent single target damage and doesn't die unless I send him alone into a crowd, and AP issues don't seem so bad since my pet is doin most of the work anyways. Pretty sure I've had LF crit squishies for 400+ every second (DPS meter is showing +600 as my highest but I'll assume that was a mob), seems useful to me but I won't complain about more buffs. Wish I had more utility but I suppose the double CC is good enough.

My aoe game seems nonexistent though, slashing blade crits for under 100 against lots of people (with crit damage tactic), and I'm afraid to spam echoing roars in big crowds because the DoT will break any future aoe detaunt if I need it and doesn't seem to do much damage anyways. Would be nice if echoing roar damage scaled off tough or wounds like LF now since building str doesn't seem like an option in guardian. Or maybe take the DoT off of it so I can cast it on CD without breaking future detaunts, risking breaking detaunt doesn't seem worth the damage atm. Thx for all the work, seems like nothing but complaints here but I've talked to at least a few WLs in game also loving the changes.

[Brizio]

Well we tried for many hours, and altough these nerfs hit hard, we've seen worse. All you have to do is forget guardian path, and retalent to hunter/axeman.

No, you can't. Cause with the changes it also affect Lion dps.

What is happening is that the Lion DPS is soooo bad now (around 350 str) that, for example, coordinated strike (used to be the strongest combo damage with the lion) is now junk, cause Lion hits for around 30 damage. So basically WL, that already had bad sustained DPS (ap problem) is even worse now because of the boost nerf, on hunter/axeman.

My suggestion is to become a crappy pull bot, try go Loner or go play other char.

You want a damage WL pet? You go guardian and spec accordingly, no longer will going full, player centric, DPS spec also allow you to gain the most from the guardian tree stance. By the very virtue of being guardian specd and built your 'sustained' damage goes up because you are dying a hell of a lot less.

Also you mentioned loner, its almost like the intent was for the lion to be doing around 25% of the combined damage damage of the WL/Pet combined, not say the player doing 75% and the pet 40-50%.

and whats this? they are still out in the lakes, pet no longer melts in the aoe splash, they are still killing things and the sky hasnt fallen, gosh....

Im sorry but thats absolutly not what i meant, again.

What i said is... Axeman/Hunter got overall dps nerfed since Lion doesnt help at all now (am i wrong?). I didnt even try Guardian, but as Pacso said "All you have to do is forget guardian path".

Coordinated Strike, wich is a Hunter path skill was suposed to do close WL/Pet damage and it isnt... or did it get changed at any point? Better to spam Sundering Chop now.

I belive overall dps on WL, that was already the worst among all melee DPS (yes, i know, it has pounce, pull and all other utilities), got nerfed even more.

But since im prolly gonna be considered a cry baby order bad player and my opinion will go down the toilet... ill just gonna play my sorc/engie/WE. So sorry for those player that only has WL.

Peace!