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Vdova
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#111 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:18 pm

there is a WE who plays RoR called vodnova or something like that back on badlands,

and for mara - KSS...just about the only player i would ever actively avoid when soloing [/quote]

True I was playing on Badlands,but Iwas far from being mentioned in best players list. I was little bit anoying,but definitely not the best WE :-)

I was playing in T3 with Kss in old days,we had really fun times and he was really terrifying :-D
But in T3 there were also great order players like Rieoz(or something similar) which was one of the most anoying and badass AM I ever fouhgt. :twisted:
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#112 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:04 pm

Kharnamatic wrote:
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Please do not celebrate these "best players." It's because of these players and the fact that Warhammer had no effective matchmaking that WAR died. At the end of WAR's life, full premades of these players had the lakes and scenarios in full lockdown. Casuals that wanted to queue solo or pvp for fun weren't able to, as they would just end up getting roflstomped by geared and coordinated parties, discouraging them from logging in and eventually unsubbing.

Case in point: let's examine the last year of Badlands. At that time order was being completely dominated by a group of now legendary dps zealots. I am talking of the reign of forsseti, myndfreak, cyvik and others whose names now elude me since the bioware forums have been taken down. With their extraordinary aoe dps, aoe heal debuffs and ability to switch to heal mode at any point to be able to flex under pressure and be nigh unkillable, dps zealots were completely broken.

In rvr, guarded dps zealots with the odd magus to pull had a decisive advantage in lakes. The extreme aoe dps of these groups would kill any unguarded or solo rvrer in gcds. Fearful of dying, order's casual players had to stand back and many times you would see slayers just throwing axes from the backlines. Stripped of their pubbie support, while destro's pubbies were able to attack without fear, order had a massive numerical disadvantage and would always be camped at their spawn.

Dps zealots were even more ridiculous in scenarios. They had this destro-exclusive (runepriests didn't have it) ability that caused a continuous pbaoe knockback + virtually unhealable high aoe damage channel that (with tactics) applied an aoe heal debuff. With proper positioning, which destro's premades were consistently capable of, a two guarded dps zealot premade could set it up so that order that were punted by the first zealot's channel were punted into the second zealot's channel. Order was knocked back and forth between zealots, unable to cast heals, unable to fight back. All they could do was die - in droves. Scenarios were pathetic in the end. Order would often give up and remain in their spawn from the start (where they were safe from the zealot's pbaoe inside their guards), and eventually scenarios stopped popping as order gave up altogether.

Order could came up with no counter to the dps zealot comp. From pubbies to self-declared "top-tier" guilds, order players were stomped on, camped, destroyed, raped. Order either quit the game, like myrmidons a "top tier" guild that was shamefully showed up by dps healers and as a pro gaming team (they do the gw2 pro circuit now, look up ostricheggs, one of their players who won some competition) had to quit to save face, or switched to destro, in the case of such players as tankbeardz, arthem and liandel. The case of the player tankbeardz is especially galling. A kotbs and crucial member of a competitive order guild, who should have represented order and kept them in the fight, he grew tired of being farmed by dps zealots to play a magus by the name of riftbeardz. As a magus he became the buttboy for dps zealots, his sole job: rifting order into the aoe dps of the zealots for them to om nom on . What an ignoble thing to be remembered for! From intrepid solo tank and dependable guard to riftbot.

The only order player of any note was llondo, who like the also legendary xylophone before him, was a dps archmage. With the archmage's ap steal, the dps am was on the few comps that could shut down a zealot's channel and dps and swing the battle in order's favor. Still he was a drop in an ocean of bad. Unsubbing in despair at being so utterly dominated, the lakes become almost devoid of order, with almost constant aao in their favor. Now without anybody to fight, destro unsubbed in turn out of boredom. Seeing the population figures, EA made the only decision it could: it shut down the game.

And that is how Badlands died. With a dps zealot bang. In the end, chaos prevailed and the heralds of the apocalypse: the zealots forsseti, myndfreak, cyvik and co. Your like will never be forgotten.

Even though as a chosen player I glory in our victory, I am still sad WAR was closed because of dps zealots. The devs could have just nerfed them a bit and the game would still be running today. I have not found a game like Warhammer since. I have tried WoW and have no idea why people play it and pay for the devs to make no content for years. I now mainly play World of Tanks. I encourage everybody to try Elder Scrolls Online when it goes Buy To Play next month. I played it for a month and the game is solid, the sub (to keep up multiple subs big no no) was too much for me though.
Don't forget SMs being incredibly OP.

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Morf
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#113 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:25 pm

@ Kharnamtic(not quoting because it would take up a whole page :))

Agree that most of the "best players" shouldn't be celebrated because like you said it made the majority of players who were not 24/7 best group setup with bis gear/consumables useless which is why when i played my shaman it was more fun to roll solo or as a duo/3 man, however that should encourage the casuals etc to up there game.

What you say about dps zealots i dont agree with it all, putting the end of war down to dps zealots is silly.
I tried dps zealot towards the end times of war tnx to the free rr100 potion and doing scens and city sieges on norn is was crazy the dps potential they had, that being said what you describe of a so called top tier premades getting wrecked may be true but if they were top tier then they should be able to find a way to combat dps zealots. For a start the pbaoe kb that zealot had..as a top tier premade it wouldnt be hard to co-ordinate a 35 second immunity to CC having full resolute defense and 2 tanks with inex force, 35 seconds is more then enough time to kill a dps zealot who to do huge dps will have to spec full glass cannon. Mayb these top tier players you talk about were not as great as you think.

Eso for sure wil be worth a try, have a few vet level chars waiting to be given a 2nd try once it is free, i just hope leveling in pvp will be viable, questing and doing the story line on more then 1 char drove me nuts.
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Luth
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#114 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:32 pm

I'm pretty sure he's trolling about dps zealots.

Penril
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#115 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:39 pm

If you don't know who Kharnamatic is let me enlighten you: he was a huge troll in the old WAR forums, posting things like:

- Marauders need a buff
- DPS Zealots are the best DPS in the game
- SMs are OP

And so on. The only way to deal with him (as with most trolls) is to simply ignore him.

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Azarael
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#116 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:45 pm

Very interesting, actually. A player who always tells the exact opposite of the truth.

Useful.

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Tesq
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#117 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:09 pm

also how many ppl a magus could rift togheter.... you just have to spread, it can work once or in middle for zerg but i don't see it wonderfull on sc, also with 20 sec immunites from 2 tank some random root (40 sec) ....it's just a troll

oh yea forgot kobs and chosen aura as damage reduction.
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#118 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:12 pm

Oh Paradox! That was some fun, albeit brief, times!
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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#119 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:20 pm

Vdova wrote: there is a WE who plays RoR called vodnova or something like that back on badlands,

and for mara - KSS...just about the only player i would ever actively avoid when soloing

True I was playing on Badlands,but Iwas far from being mentioned in best players list. I was little bit anoying,but definitely not the best WE :-)

I was playing in T3 with Kss in old days,we had really fun times and he was really terrifying :-D
But in T3 there were also great order players like Rieoz(or something similar) which was one of the most anoying and badass AM I ever fouhgt. :twisted:
There were probably a lot of very good we's in t4, but as i said my connection died as soon as i got into a t4 zone (even in t3 it was a choice of the game running or vent.. never both ..lol) but given how long i played t3 there were only a few players who were +10 to me in DK, and most of them ran in groups.. solo it was pretty much you and KSS, so to me you make the best we list.

Apparently Rios has rerolled again, heard it from another old DPS AM i bumped into yesterday.. I can smell a DPS AM 6 man sc group in the offing muahahahaha

Hopefully KSS will log on and we can go for a 6 v 1 :P
Always hopeful of finding a DPS AM guild.. if anyone ever sees one, with low entrance standards, please let me know..

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Re: Best players of original WAR

Post#120 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:00 am

bangkokeight wrote:there were only a few players who were +10 to me in DK
DK score means someone is good/bad?
lol?
never guessed that, but feels nice tbh.
i got 2 pages of ppl on minus for 2 last years of war on KN, when max was -9 [kisses to ivlin sw] :mrgreen:
and i was on +20k or smth
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