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Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:34 pm
by simtex
playing with bo/chosen in orvr is like being on steroids. no equation required

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:37 pm
by bloodi
Haojin wrote:Ok buddie, DI + CD + DB > DT + LS + EA.
Destro needs nerf.
You should make another post with colors and numbers that try to hide you blatantly lying about stuff to not get your toys nerfed so you can show everyone how dire the situation at destruction is, you guys are hanging by a thread.

You can tell people things like "13 order using morale do 8400 and 10 destru using them do 4800" and then forget to mention that adding 3 marauders so you have equal numbers makes it do the same damage. Then your fellow realmmates come and say things like "excelllent post" "you show them Haojin" and the like.

As the one i linked shows, you are pretty good at that at least.

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:41 pm
by roadkillrobin
Its really easy to counter CH/BO morales in rvr.
If you make a RVR group build dedicated to it.

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:46 pm
by shaggyboomboom
roadkillrobin wrote:Its really easy to counter CH/BO morales in rvr.
If you make a RVR group build dedicated to it.
How? the only morale drains that order has access to is the WH tactic one (which is absolutely crap in oRvR and small scale), the Knight M4 and the SM M4 (f%*#king crap - won't even drain M1 completely).

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:50 pm
by roadkillrobin
It require some creative thinkin outside the realm of cookiecutter builds. Think of it in terms of warband composition instead of 6man groups. Not gonna spoil it.

If you think Morale drains are crapp then you really shouldn't complain about morale pumps are OP coz you're just blatantly ignoring the counters. Its like saying damage is OP coz you're not usings heals.

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:51 pm
by Penril
shaggyboomboom wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:Its really easy to counter CH/BO morales in rvr.
If you make a RVR group build dedicated to it.
How? the only morale drains that order has access to is the WH tactic one (which is absolutely crap in oRvR and small scale), the Knight M4 and the SM M4 (f%*#king crap - won't even drain M1 completely).
SM also has Intimidating Blow.

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:52 pm
by Penril
roadkillrobin wrote:It require some creative thinkin outside the realm of cookiecutter builds. Think of it in terms of warband composition instead of 6man groups. Not gonna spoil it.
Then don't post here.

"You are wrong because I know something you don't but I won't mention it here cuz it's my big secret" is completely childish.

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:57 pm
by shaggyboomboom
Penril wrote:
shaggyboomboom wrote:
roadkillrobin wrote:Its really easy to counter CH/BO morales in rvr.
If you make a RVR group build dedicated to it.
How? the only morale drains that order has access to is the WH tactic one (which is absolutely crap in oRvR and small scale), the Knight M4 and the SM M4 (f%*#king crap - won't even drain M1 completely).
SM also has Intimidating Blow.
true, but IB is ST and only moves 100 morale points, which means you would need to smach someone with it atleast 4 times to remove M1 (tldr - trash)

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:57 pm
by roadkillrobin
I can send you a PM for the sake of realm ballance how the group looks like Penril. Im not gonna give it away in the open forums. Are football teams childish for not giving away their plays in public to?

Re: General state of classes and Order/Destruction

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:57 pm
by Penril
shaggyboomboom wrote:
true, but IB is ST and only moves 100 morale points, which means you would need to smach someone with it atleast 4 times to remove M1 (tldr - trash)
I never implied IB is good (or bad!). Just pointed out that you forgot about it :P