Return of Reckoning

lol, warband vs warband magus is key..

Bretin wrote:what did this discussion just became?..

regarding the IB buff: completely retarded und would lead into the same double meta cheese with double slayer as we have it for destru right now.

Bretin wrote: The IB is in a great spot with both SnB and 2h. he is one of the reasons why order has so many viable comps compared to destru. buffing him would simply be stupid as **** and would turn into a side nerf for wl but it would become a buff to the slayer.

Oh mighty PUG king of Bretain...

1 - I fail to see how runic shield and stuborn as stone fixes are retarded and would become a buff to the slayer, magic damage absorb benefit everyone, Stubborn as stone AA haste is IB only.
2- Making the parry buff core... I fail again to see how that would benefit the slayers more. It is a quality of life change for both IB/BG. IB run it anyway in 6 man set up. Having it core would let IB spec higher in vengeance to reduce the damage gap between SM/BO and them. that's all. (omg retarded ! +120 armor debuff from vengeance mastery... side nerf to WL...)
3- You are correct that sharing AA haste increase with oathfriend would probably benefit the slayer more. But the IB can only buff 1 person... 1 slayer. I don't see an order meta group with no slayer... but yeah ok absurdly idiotic...

So basically buffing IB armor debuff would side nerf WL. True.

Or rather, making IB worth taking over SM would side-bench the WL, cause as it stands now with the doulbe-dok meta... if you bring IB, you have no choice anyway to bring 2 slayers or Slayer/WH. Otherwise you cant mask the HD (both your tanks and WL use curses) and you have only 1...

But yeah... stupid and retarded... its how we do things in Canada...

Bretin wrote:what did this discussion just became?..

Come on bud, you know it's par for the course on these forums for the topic to change about once every 3 or 4 pages. It's like a fun little mystery what topic will be after 6v6/WB balance.

Bretin wrote:

Toldavf wrote:Both tanks and tanks in general have allot more damage at this level than they usually would.

wrong.

How is this wrong? the new merc set has 5% more melee crit and 46 more strength than the anni set swords masters would have been using on live.

Toldavf wrote:

Bretin wrote:

Toldavf wrote:Both tanks and tanks in general have allot more damage at this level than they usually would.

wrong.

How is this wrong? the new merc set has 5% more melee crit and 46 more strength than the anni set swords masters would have been using on live.

We have no purple world drops in T4, no instance gear, and SC weapons locked at RR39 version. A lot of stuff is missing from live. At least that's what I think.

Toldavf wrote:

Bretin wrote:

Toldavf wrote:Both tanks and tanks in general have allot more damage at this level than they usually would.

wrong.

How is this wrong? the new merc set has 5% more melee crit and 46 more strength than the anni set swords masters would have been using on live.

Liniment(s).

Yeah war blood and such but relative to other classes ATM their else is still higher.

Toldavf wrote:Yeah war blood and such but relative to other classes ATM their else is still higher.

SM has more crit than the other classes? Errrrm, wot?
Would really like to know why SM does more dmg now than SM was able to do on live.
Your original thesis iirc.

Sorry for the confusion my tablet seems to be a bad medium for posting. What i meant to say was the sm has higher crit than it usually would have on live at this point in relation to the other classes (its not just the sm ofc). All classes ofc revived a dps buff from the mercenary set however some revived significantly more than others.

Ofc I'm comparing the old anni set to the new merc here.

from Wingz:

And there is your problem.
Check bloodlord:

Swordmaster – Bloodlord’s Defender Kit

(2 Piece Bonus): +62 Initiative
(3 Piece Bonus): +62 Strength
(4 Piece Bonus): +5% Parry
(5 Piece Bonus): +2 Path of Hoeth Abilities

Dont forget the gloves which offer 3% crit.
The 7% on the Bastion stairs weapon (23% lotd weapon ), the liniment, the 4% shouldercrit, the 2% on the keep jewel etc........

Playing too much with the wrong ppl are we?