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Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:48 pm
by Gobtar
Getting this back on topic:
Gobtar wrote:
I think having "remove the CD for S-C" brings it inline power wise. It still will be a great tactic when dealing with Shamans but you aren't cutting out 3 for 1 (AP/GCD Economy)

AND/OR

allow D-C tactic to remove 1 blessing or enchantment. This is well worth a tactic slot and makes the knights S-C useful in all fields of play. (This suggestion is also inline because S-C is NOT a core ability)

Thoughts?

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:50 pm
by Toldavf
the 2nd option seems good

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:57 pm
by Tesq
second option is fine, you can remove both but loose 1 tactic.

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:17 am
by Aquilon
Epic thread. "Pros" from both muricas owned themselves. Roasted to ashes. You not going to ever get it, though. :lol:
Your points could be somehow valuable, with 10 slots for tactics available in the game. And with 15 seconds (or something like that) silence applied with this tactic. And, also, shaman being the one and only destro healer. Yeah,exactly like that!

So, question for you noobs: in which circumstances this freakingly op tactic could really hurt? In 1vs1? :lol: In 24vs24, when aoe-heal flies all over the field? Or pug fights? :lol:

Again: damage is laughable, skills are applied back instantly and with other destro-healers around all the efforts are just miserable.

But you now what? Remove it! Let destro-bias prevail again, just too cool down your sore arses a bit. So much inflaming through years. Ouch! That must be painful. Any reasonable KoTBS will make a better use of 4 tactic slots anyway. :lol:

Utterly amazing: so much effort and fury about crappy tactic. :lol: Forget what I "said". Butthut musht flow, keep it rolling. :mrgreen:

"experts" :lol:

PS. Foreseeing possible responses: yeah, yeah, you could imagine some kind of specific situation, when this tactic could be somehow useful, but the main goal is not be crippled, but be as versatile as possible. If, someone is not keeping that in mind: he\she\it is a noob indeed.

Cheers.

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:57 am
by Nameless
Since the tactic is such a useless crap, you dont mind changing it into something more usefull? Yes?

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:55 am
by Nishka
Aquilon wrote:Epic thread. "Pros" from both muricas owned themselves. Roasted to ashes. You not going to ever get it, though. :lol:
Your points could be somehow valuable, with 10 slots for tactics available in the game. And with 15 seconds (or something like that) silence applied with this tactic. And, also, shaman being the one and only destro healer. Yeah,exactly like that!

So, question for you noobs: in which circumstances this freakingly op tactic could really hurt? In 1vs1? :lol: In 24vs24, when aoe-heal flies all over the field? Or pug fights? :lol:

Again: damage is laughable, skills are applied back instantly and with other destro-healers around all the efforts are just miserable.

But you now what? Remove it! Let destro-bias prevail again, just too cool down your sore arses a bit. So much inflaming through years. Ouch! That must be painful. Any reasonable KoTBS will make a better use of 4 tactic slots anyway. :lol:

Utterly amazing: so much effort and fury about crappy tactic. :lol: Forget what I "said". Butthut musht flow, keep it rolling. :mrgreen:

"experts" :lol:

PS. Foreseeing possible responses: yeah, yeah, you could imagine some kind of specific situation, when this tactic could be somehow useful, but the main goal is not be crippled, but be as versatile as possible. If, someone is not keeping that in mind: he\she\it is a noob indeed.

Cheers.
The funniest thing is how they talk like there's always only 1 healer in wb, who's always a shaman and who heals only 1 target at time only with hots, thus allowing an all-mightly kotbs to shut down his single-target hot healing easily. And the poor shaman can't even re-apply his hots to this target... for whatever reason :(
I feel sorry for them, they live in a terrible, nightmarish world.

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:57 am
by rmpl
Nameless wrote:Since the tactic is such a useless crap, you dont mind changing it into something more usefull? Yes?
Like what?

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:35 am
by Soulcheg
Nishka wrote:
The funniest thing is how they talk like there's always only 1 healer in wb, who's always a shaman and who heals only 1 target at time only with hots, thus allowing an all-mightly kotbs to shut down his single-target hot healing easily. And the poor shaman can't even re-apply his hots to this target... for whatever reason :(
I feel sorry for them, they live in a terrible, nightmarish world.
They are EXPERTS, they know better!!!

What KotBS in sound and disposing mind and memory will take this tactic instead of useful ones? Only those wich predestination in their life only to hunt shamans.


You know what frightens me most? Bunch of same people, again and again, jumping from thread to thread, trying to decide which ability/tactic/morale nerf next.

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:08 am
by Ninepaces

Re: KOTBS discussion

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:09 pm
by Azarael
Nishka wrote:The funniest thing is how they talk like there's always only 1 healer in wb, who's always a shaman and who heals only 1 target at time only with hots, thus allowing an all-mightly kotbs to shut down his single-target hot healing easily. And the poor shaman can't even re-apply his hots to this target... for whatever reason :(
I feel sorry for them, they live in a terrible, nightmarish world.
And so the failure continues. Let me restate the previous pages for you again, just to make sure you don't provide a false impression on the last page.

1) It doesn't matter if there's another healer, it matters ONLY that using a healer other than Shaman is a better choice

2) KotBS isn't the only one with a shatter

3) The KotBS pays 25 AP and one GCD to shatter 3 enchantments worth far more AP and 3 GCDs, so the action economy is imbalanced.

Let me also make something else clear for the rest of you.

When you're discussing in these threads, you're essentially trying to convince ME of something.

So when I see you shitposting and flaming, what do I think? I think you don't have any decent arguments and you're panicking. Every shitpost actually persuades me to adopt the opposite opinion.