[Black Orc] Talk bout da builds ere.

[TenTonHammer]

ap drain by them selves especially these over time drains are not good simply because of the sheer number of sources of +ap and + ap regen from tacitcs, gear and potions

the only way it can be truly effective is if paired with a choking fury BG to make the ap drain really felt

but you will never run a bo and a bg together

[Jaycub]

shamans are cute, and drain AP too :^)

and hopefully one day chosen/knight won't be mandatory for serious groups.

[peterthepan3]

ap drain by them selves especially these over time drains are not good simply because of the sheer number of sources of +ap and + ap regen from tacitcs, gear and potions

the only way it can be truly effective is if paired with a choking fury BG to make the ap drain really felt

but you will never run a bo and a bg together

We run me as dps bo, and the 2 'real' tanks are a bg and chosen so you've given us an idea now - cheers!

[Bullen1995]

A Glasscannon build anyone xd?

[TenTonHammer]

Only way to go glass cannon is to slot focused offensive

And it just makes you more glass than cannon

[Vdova]

A Glasscannon build anyone xd?

I dont think there are enought tactic slots for focused offence

2H tactic, crit chance tactic, crit dmg tactic is all You need atm

[Jaycub]

Focused offence is terrible and needs to be reworked anyways. GYM is pretty much just as good as it with no downside.

Having it take a tactic slot means you lose whatever potential DPS you could of gained from whatever tactic you choose to not run, and like Vdova said you don't have slots for it and in T4 you will want to run the SYF tactic on top of those 3.

FO should be reworked into the 2H version of HtL, a togglable ability. But with some kind of risk or resources (AP / GCD) attached to it so you can't just toggle it off when you are getting hit and be back to normal instantly etc...

[Ekundu01]

FO was only partly useful if you were trying to make a tank dps in pve and it wasn't the main tank and even then it wasn't really worth it. You might as well play a healer as a dps if you are going to play a tank with FO because then at least you would have range.

[Vdova]

The think which bothers me a lot is with reworked Da toughest (war below). On live it was source of self heal and BO was much more durable with it. Now it proc only once per 10sec when previous Da toughest buff is off. Basicaly it gives bo 390 HP each 10sec. I would like it to make it work same as on live(it proc and revrite it self) Now I experiment with You got nuffind for at least ANY self/party heal, but the ammount is nearly laughable 305 hp over 10seconds. My point is that You got nuffin is ONLY usable with Da Biggest (war below) which can proc much consistent and keep Your You got nuffin always UP. Wtih Da toughest theoreticaly It should proc once per 10sec, but practicaly You have to wait 12-15sec until Da toughest get off cooldown and it can proc again. On Da greenest war below You got nuffin doesnt proc at all.
As was stated in other threads You got nuffin heal is so low, that it doesnt save and help anyone and makes engis healing keg looks like overpowered healing abbility
For group play Da toughest is worthles and if You have Dok with armor covenant and chosen with rezist aura, Da greenest is worthles also. The most viable atm is Da Bigest war below.

I really hope when T4 comes out the planned patch 1.4,9 for live changes will be implemented and BO/SM will get theyr buff for theyr Bladess/War below procs.

This link refer to planed changes for bladess/war below procs: http://waaagh.de/forum/allgemeine-disku ... lpha-test/

[Ekundu01]

IMO You got nuffin is in the wrong tree. With the way Da Toughest works now you get the full run of YGN without it refreshing on itself. With any other bellow it can refresh itself over and over and you could end up missing out on heal ticks.