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Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:17 pm
by Penril
Jaycub wrote:Well if SM is only good at buffing DPS AM, maybe we should just... buff DPS AM so SM gets indirectly buffed and becomes meta :^)
This is obviously the solution that has been hiding in front of us this whole time.
Seriously though, SM is the best tank for grouping with a DPS AM. Duoing the lakes like this is incredibly fun (and effective).
I was testing the SM spirit debuffs last night and reduced a poor chosen to ZERO.

Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:43 pm
by Jaycub
Do all tanks lack an incoming heal debuff? I see a lot of outgoing but no incoming.
Heal debuffs are one of the best scaling skills in the game, and incoming is I believe much more valuable than outgoing.
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:49 pm
by Penril
Jaycub wrote:Do all tanks lack an incoming heal debuff? I see a lot of outgoing but no incoming.
Heal debuffs are one of the best scaling skills in the game, and incoming is I believe much more valuable than outgoing.
Chosen has inc heal debuff aura (25%)
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:50 pm
by Jaycub
**** I thought it was mirrored to knight one, CHOSEN OP.
But only the strongest one is used on a target correct?
Giving SM/BO a ST 50% inc healdebuff could give them a bit of an edge on the other tanks in terms of what they can bring to a party.
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:51 pm
by Coryphaus
25 dosnt mean much really and it didn't stack with other hdebuffs right?
50% is when it started to make difference
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:52 pm
by Jaycub
Coryphaus wrote:25 dosnt mean much really and it didn't stack with other hdebuffs right?
50% is when it started to make difference
edited my post :^)
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:57 pm
by Coryphaus
50% hdebuff on a tank like blorc....
Who already gets a 5s silence that can hit really dam hard is a.... Bit overkill for you think?
Furthermore the healer and caster killer role is taken by bg
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:57 pm
by Penril
Jaycub wrote:**** I thought it was mirrored to knight one, CHOSEN OP.
But only the strongest one is used on a target correct?
Giving SM/BO a ST 50% inc healdebuff could give them a bit of an edge on the other tanks in terms of what they can bring to a party.
This would make them very desirable in the sense that it would let other classes try different specs (for example, WE's wouldn't have to worry about their BLB and could go Carnage/Treachery).
WAAAGH! and Phoenix's Wings: Requires a target. Deal "X" AoE damage and apply a 50% inc heal debuff on their target for 10 secs.
This thread has some interesting ideas.
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:59 pm
by Morf
I like this Idea, it gives them something unique that other tanks dont have.
We have kd's move down which is a step in the right direction although could be seen as a buff to dps sm's and bo's.
I would make 1 of the useless mastery skills, redirected force for sm and we'z bigger for bo's into a medium punt and then see where to go from there.
Re: Poll: BOs and SMs
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:01 pm
by Penril
Coryphaus wrote:50% hdebuff on a tank like blorc....
Who already gets a 5s silence that can hit really dam hard is a.... Bit overkill for you think?
4 second silence. But i see what you are saying...