Return of Reckoning

Sever1n wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pm Combination of gtdc mara cd/ pulls and covenant of celerity makes me sick. Wings of heaven nerfed to the ground on top. Destro who switch to order dont even undrrstand how to engage. No amount of rampages can compansate this mass of toxic mechanics.

No amount of undefendable attacks? really? go to any defended/assualted keep with 4-5 organized slayers and watch destro tears flow. I know... I cry them

If u dont see diference between op cc that benefits whole blob and 1 dmg buff that benefits only foe slayers thats your problem. GTDC must be reworked, like was wings of heaven and broadhead arrow. Feels like nerfs very onesided dor some reason. We sick of amount of crap that this skill generate in sum with other insane cc. What order have to answer that? Ambush? Literaly nothing. Destro blobs literally unkiteble, and order backlines conwtantly treatened, while abominations like shammies can freecast on top of their ridiculous defense. Give order same tools on nerf this **** to the ground.

Sever1n wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pm Combination of gtdc mara cd/ pulls and covenant of celerity makes me sick. Wings of heaven nerfed to the ground on top. Destro who switch to order dont even undrrstand how to engage. No amount of rampages can compansate this mass of toxic mechanics.

This. The combinantion of GTDC/mara pulls, mara aoe knock down and covenant of celerity snare is pure cancer. They only have to hit you with whatever ability to apply snare, then you are getting pulled and knocked down or first knocked down and then pulled into their aoe spamming blob. Nothing on order can even that out. Rampage can hit through defense but destro just walks out of it. You can't just walk out of that destro aoe with all that snares, pulling and kds.

Explain to me why they are having the superior pulls, the unique Mara aoe knock down and the covenant of celerity snare. All destro exclusives. Not to mention the gits runaway, git auto detaunt, gork sez stop, zealot wind, sh bubble remove, sh kaboom! ... It's not even at all and the pull + kd + snare combo is a hell of an annoyance.

What is making it so broken op is the GTDC pull. It needs to go.

I truly think 99% of destro would glady give up the choppa pull for rampage/id to be fixed/nerfed. There are things they can do to bring balance, the point is they don't want to currently.

as a slayer fan i would gladly sacrifice rampage for GTDC to be gone.

Its a win win for everyone imo.

People still compare rampage to gtdc?
Compare it to ID and see what Choppa got instead of rampage.

Sulorie wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 9:20 am People still compare rampage to gtdc?
Compare it to ID and see what Choppa got instead of rampage.

But AP buff is soooo OP, of course things are balanced.

Sever1n wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pm Combination of gtdc mara cd/ pulls and covenant of celerity makes me sick. Wings of heaven nerfed to the ground on top. Destro who switch to order dont even undrrstand how to engage. No amount of rampages can compansate this mass of toxic mechanics.

I duno i only see order warbands push straight with slayer murderball knowing full well they can impose their gameplay, destru have to adabt by peeling/ dispalcement and spread /split ad hoc and on the fly based on the specific sich /map /enviroment.

It does feel quite the opposite by playing both side.

Well at least no one still exploited full racial elf wb...that would be a broken sight...really

Tesq wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 12:10 pm

Sever1n wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:57 pm Combination of gtdc mara cd/ pulls and covenant of celerity makes me sick. Wings of heaven nerfed to the ground on top. Destro who switch to order dont even undrrstand how to engage. No amount of rampages can compansate this mass of toxic mechanics.

I duno i only see order warbands push straight with slayer murderball knowing full well they can impose their gameplay, destru have to adabt by peeling/ dispalcement and spread /split ad hoc and on the fly based on the specific sich /map /enviroment.

It does feel quite the opposite by playing both side.

Well at least no one still exploited full racial elf wb...that would be a broken sight...really

Thanks to pull meta and some slows from procs and morals it is much harder to do maneuvers as orders, not to mention kitting hence order realm prefer static environment of forts and keeps.

If u dont engage immediately when numbers are equal your frontline got shredded cos of pull spam

Nameless wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:41 pm Thanks to pull meta and some slows from procs and morals it is much harder to do maneuvers as orders, not to mention kitting hence order realm prefer static environment of forts and keeps.

If u dont engage immediately when numbers are equal your frontline got shredded cos of pull spam

Your slayer/wl melee train should be right where they are pulled to...