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Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:24 pm
by Chinesehero
I am always the white mouse of the dungeons
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:25 pm
by SmackdownNinja
Regarding the change to toughness, how much toughness does 75% equal out to be? For example does 75%= 1050 toughness or does it just take 25% off any amount of toughness you have.
Also as a BG with around 1200 toughness I don’t ever get hit for 1s unless it is another turtle SnB tank. The issues seem to stem from somewhere else imo. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and for continuely working on the game we all love.
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:41 pm
by Collateral
SmackdownNinja wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:25 pm
Regarding the change to toughness, how much toughness does 75% equal out to be? For example does 75%= 1050 toughness or does it just take 25% off any amount of toughness you have.
Also as a BG with around 1200 toughness I don’t ever get hit for 1s unless it is another turtle SnB tank. The issues seem to stem from somewhere else imo. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and for continuely working on the game we all love.
Natherul explained it already. If damage would be mitigated for more than 75%, the mitigation is capped at 75%. Then comes armour and resists mitigation etc. Your toughness is not reduced by any amount.
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:46 pm
by roadkillrobin
Morf wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:59 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:25 am
- Toughness mitigation will now be capped at 75% damage. If this was not the case then someone could easily be almost immune to damage with just stacking one stat. Remember that Resistances or Armor is also applied after the toughness.
May i ask what the thinking is behind this, is it a consequence of changing the toughness formula from how it was on live ? maybe just change it back to how it was initially and correctly done on ROR mirroring live because even blackguards with 1400+toughness never took 1 damage on live so clearly something (after you changed the toughness formula) has gone wrong.
Toughness was the worst stat on live servers. It did only one thing were every other stat except Wounds, had a secondary function, and if you had more dps bonus reduction then attackers attack bonus reduction the remaining stat points did nothing. And even with monsterous amount of dps reduction from toughness instant skills like WoP/BB would still crit you for almoast full vallue. The only time it was usefull was to negate a long cast skill like Doombolt or Fireball, which hare so rarly cast due to immobillity of long cast. When AoE's aswell changed to only have 50% benefit from attack bonuses means toughness got even worse. It had to be changed to do something better.
However, my thoughts was always adding a secondary effect to it rather then boosting it's damage reduction and that function would be crowd controll time reduction.
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:49 pm
by Chinesehero
Let me explain what the dev tell
he means if the attacker do 1000 dmg to u
ur toughness can only mit 750 dmg
so 250 dmg is the lowest value
after that pass through armor / resistance mit and this is another 75% cap???
Hope I get it correct
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:50 pm
by hogun
realy sorry but
- Divine Warden and Blood Guard will now convey their self buff on the player even if the attack is defended.
in the same way that you up the Wp and the DK it would be normal to up the Bg and the IB. when we are def with 200 in strong all of our buffs are very difficult to pass because they need hit the target.
if you made it for these two classes of heal I have no doubt that you will do it for both tanks.because it's their main mechanics
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:51 pm
by Chinesehero
roadkillrobin wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:46 pm
Morf wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:59 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:25 am
- Toughness mitigation will now be capped at 75% damage. If this was not the case then someone could easily be almost immune to damage with just stacking one stat. Remember that Resistances or Armor is also applied after the toughness.
May i ask what the thinking is behind this, is it a consequence of changing the toughness formula from how it was on live ? maybe just change it back to how it was initially and correctly done on ROR mirroring live because even blackguards with 1400+toughness never took 1 damage on live so clearly something (after you changed the toughness formula) has gone wrong.
Toughness was the worst stat on live servers. It did only one thing were every other stat except Wounds, had a secondary function, and if you had more dps bonus reduction then attackers attack bonus reduction the remaining stat points did nothing. And even with monsterous amount of dps reduction from toughness instant skills like WoP/BB would still crit you for almoast full vallue. The only time it was usefull was to negate a long cast skill like Doombolt or Fireball, which hare so rarly cast due to immobillity of long cast. When AoE's aswell changed to only have 50% benefit from attack bonuses means toughness got even worse. It had to be changed to do something better.
However, my thoughts was always adding a secondary effect to it rather then boosting it's damage reduction and that function would be crowd controll time reduction.
try play a bg ??? 45% buff toughness and u will know what a turtle is
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:02 pm
by Caffeine
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:25 am
[Items]
- Sentinel Armor reworked entirely.
- Strikethrough effects added to WP/Dok shields, values dependant on rarity.
Are these final? Zealot/Rp procs are underwhelming compared to what other classes get and even compared to old revisions of this set.
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:03 pm
by Sulorie
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:25 am
- Goaf Birdsong has departed and flown away.
You only killed 2 out of 3 Goaf Birdsong at Altdorf market square.
Re: Patch notes 22/12/2018
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:08 pm
by Hargrim
Caffeine wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:02 pm
Are these final? Zealot/Rp procs are underwhelming compared to what other classes get and even compared to old revisions of this set.
oaliaen wrote: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:56 pm
Unfortunetly sentinel set for choppa is still bad.
Can't please everyone!