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Jaycub
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#101 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:57 am

There are a bunch of factors required for 4k festering arrow.

>M2 is up
>I have to crit
>target can't have guard
>target can't have me detaunted
>target can't have %based dmg reduction abilities or renown up
>if there is a tank with a brain (knows the m2 animation) he can't taunt me during my 3 sec cast

Then there is reaction time, the opponent for instance a 3k healpot would negate it, healer m3, really any panic button. Outside healing, etc...

It's the most gimmicky **** in the game, if it was actually a threat healers would be just predetaunting SW's all the time but they don't. Festering arrow is a perfect example of a l2p issue if there ever was one, when is the last time you ever seen a SW running fester spec to insta gib people in 6v6 or any competitive play?
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Bozzax
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#102 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:06 am

Love how heal potions is percieved as counter especially as 99/100 that die are pugs. Hint: they don't even use stat/armor potions

Or the target needs to be unguarded like it is hard to avoid them guarded bl softies that all predetaunt ;)

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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#103 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:32 am

It is very boring type of game, 1 per minute to try to kill someone with one shot. In the rest of the time to be virtually useless as DPS below the rest of RDD. A more useful spec for eagle eye is using a shot with the tactics (1s cast), but in this case there is a huge problem with AP. Who decides on the 2 tactics AP, but there is a lack of basic stat - ballistics and weapon skills. Low level of Ballistics and weapon skill does not allow to use the spec at the moment.

A similar story with assault SW, AP level is not sufficient, that would push the target with any protection in the form of detaunt or guard.
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Bozzax
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#104 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:45 am

Lets see some proof that SW have costlier abilities/rotations on avg compared to other rdps/dps thanks
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#105 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:48 am

BW have not problem with AP - all time
Sorc have not problem with AP - all time
Eng - have problem with AP, but have big bust damage with .ab ex patch (when use AP turrel tactic - have 20 AP every 2 s)
Magus - same as Eng
SH - Have AP problem when use plink - 1s tactics - 60AP for cast
SW - Same as SH
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#106 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:06 am

Well there are enough other Toons that can buff youre ap Regen
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#107 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:34 am

Daknallbomb wrote:Well there are enough other Toons that can buff youre ap Regen

Yeah, so I'm playing for the Skirm :) have no AP problem except AoE
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#108 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:42 pm

Yeah I'm a fester spec and I've gotten 4k fester arrows, but as Jayclub said you have to have all of these conditionals in place for it to work. In a competitive 6v6 scenario, I'll only hit a cloth armored target for 1.5-2k max, with m2 up. I have a ton of problems with skirm AP. It's near impossible with shammy AP drain. The point of this post, though, is that Assault is much worse. I'm amazed at how quickly I lose AP in Assault stance.
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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#109 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:33 am

lastalien wrote:It is very boring type of game, 1 per minute to try to kill someone with one shot. In the rest of the time to be virtually useless as DPS below the rest of RDD. A more useful spec for eagle eye is using a shot with the tactics (1s cast), but in this case there is a huge problem with AP. Who decides on the 2 tactics AP, but there is a lack of basic stat - ballistics and weapon skills. Low level of Ballistics and weapon skill does not allow to use the spec at the moment.

A similar story with assault SW, AP level is not sufficient, that would push the target with any protection in the form of detaunt or guard.
This is true need a spamming ability for scout spec to really work

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Re: Buffing the Shadow Warrior/What change would you like to see?

Post#110 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:06 pm

The reason for adding ap cost to eagle eye 1 sec cast tactic and SH equivalent was that scout/bigshooting spec was wastly superior to skirm/quick shooting spec in the high gear enviroment of AOR. Now it the enviroment is different, and the roles are reversed. Imo the ap cost was a way too big nerf in the first place, after all it allready took up a tactic spot to make scout/ BS viable.
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