Dueling

[lilsabin]

exactly this , see , i think one of the problem with this game and many others is the class balance... what i mean by that is : every class should be equal at some point , like an engineer should be able to beat a black orc or wtvr (with equal gear and lvl ) . Thats why WoW is fun , because even if you are a holy priest (heal spec) , you can beat a fury warrior ( dps spec) all depend of your skills . You know , whenever i am in a scenario ( with my engineer) , there are some classes i dont even bother go against , especially the tanky one , blocking my shots ( THE **** U BLOCKING A RANGED ATTACK 4 TIME IN A ROW ?)... aNYWAY , THere are more important matter to focus on right now

Don't you dare bring WoW class balance into this discussion and make people believe that it's balanced. Do I need to mention DPS shamans, Arcane Mages, Destro Warlocks or Boomkins? WoW pvp was NEVER blizzards prioity. If it ever was balanced, it was a coincidence because of PvE balancing.

Believe me, I've just come from that unbalanced mess. It's not one week ago since I unsubbed. It's horrendeous. Resto druids, rogues, warriors and frost mages reign supreme. And it's been like that siiiiiince.... vanilla? That's 10 years. 10 years where no one at blizz cared about pvp.

You missed my whole point , all i am saying is it might be boring for one class to never be able to fight without the help of others . You know always relaying on other people to accomplish something ... always looking for a healer , or a dps or a tank because ur classes will never be able to stand by itself no matter the gear or the level might be boring for some people , especially with this new generation not being patient ... I am not saying the actual Devs have to do something about it , i am just saying people at mythic should have tested more before releasing... anyway , what is done is done and we ll deal with it , for me , the game being like this is ok , anyway no body is restraining me to play this , if i get tired or bored i ll go play something else . BTW engineer "friction burn" doesnt knock 40 feet away like it is intended to do .

[Luth]

BTW engineer "friction burn" doesnt knock 40 feet away like it is intended to do .

The ability doesn't have a knockback effect. The description is a little misleading.

[Razid1987]

You missed my whole point , all i am saying is it might be boring for one class to never be able to fight without the help of others . You know always relaying on other people to accomplish something ... always looking for a healer , or a dps or a tank because ur classes will never be able to stand by itself no matter the gear or the level might be boring for some people , especially with this new generation not being patient ... I am not saying the actual Devs have to do something about it , i am just saying people at mythic should have tested more before releasing... anyway , what is done is done and we ll deal with it , for me , the game being like this is ok , anyway no body is restraining me to play this , if i get tired or bored i ll go play something else . BTW engineer "friction burn" doesnt knock 40 feet away like it is intended to do .

I might have. Sorry if that's the case. But I gotta call bs when I see it. The balance issues was one of the biggest reasons I left the game, so ^^

Well that's just the nature of an objective based game. You have certain roles, and you need all of them to do most in the game. It's the same for wow, only there it's about pve-orientation, while war is about pvp/rvr. I don't really see a problem with it. It's impossible to balance a class based game for 1v1.

[Telen]

Why would they add a gamemode that was specifically for a select group of classes?

Surely you would also have to add some other gametype for classes that aren't balanced for duelling.

[Morf]

I have a question.

Where is the fun in unbalanced duelling?

The fun in unbalanced duelling is being the class that is unfavoured/not as strong and coming out on top.

What do you mean exactly? I don't believe that an engi could beat a Mara or WE at an equal state of gear, for example.

What i mean is exactly what i wrote, also Engi was the no1 class for dueling, atleast at endgame and im sure a decent engi in the game we have right now should be able to beat a mara or WE if they time root and kb

[Dajciekrwi]

Imao, War or RoR are no games to do some dueling. If y want dueal, pls try Conan: HYBoruian Age, -that game have a nioce combat sytem with arenas only for dueling.
In WAR every class has her role and y must accepting thata. Some Engi like Inspectorgdgt, Bombina, or Thousandsunny kill my Mara from far, and i cant do nothing. I remeber a Engi called Piipuu who was practically unkiliable, root root and just root:))
So i cant agreed with opinion about better or worster calsses, its just matter of tactic and understanding about y class - with all respect.

[jonathanmurphy3]

Magus was easily one of the best dueling classes end-game if well-played/spec'd, so I'm guessing engi wasn't far behind.

[jonathanmurphy3]

Half of the people bad-mouthing duels here:
* have probably never dueled
* can't duel
* don't want to diverge from their zerg mentality

All classes could excel at dueling. DPS Zealots, defensive guardian WLs could prove a nightmare for DPS DOKs, Magi, etc. Even Sorcerers could beat anything if well-played (Neuropols)

There's nothing wrong with dueling. Duels are a test of skill, and a good duel between two professionals is a lot more intense than mindless zerg so many people are fond of.

If you don't like dueling, cool - don't do it. But others of us do like to duel, and there were dueling communities back on Norn/Azgal. Some people prefer small-scale pvp, and some prefer 100v100.
WAR can cater to both very easily, so everyone benefits.

[Azarael]

I'd just like to say that I hate zerg just as much, if not more, than I hate duelling:

- Zerging is trash because strategy goes out the window.
- Duelling is trash because the game isn't balanced for it, making the results meaningless.

[jonathanmurphy3]

And all classes are balanced for zerging, then? If you can honestly tell me that every class has its place in zerging then I don't know what to say.

Dueling in and of itself is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. However, people do it because they want self-satisfaction and because it is fun. Nearly every other MMO out there has dueling, so there's no reason why WAR shouldn't.