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Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:03 pm
by Tiggo
if you once tasted the sweet mana of an organized group you will hardly play solo again...

anyone not at least trying to get a (at least well composited) premade/organized group together for scs is just missing 90% of pvp fun IMHO...

most classes only shine in a group, guarded and healed well... play a slayer in a group and then solo and you will know what i mean ...

guarding a dps who does make damage and see enemies die is just such a better experience as of guarding that random dps who attack that def tank only for the whole 15 minutes of an sc and then gets out with 0 kills and complains how op tanks are on the forum ;)

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:05 pm
by Tiggo
mursie wrote:
tomato wrote:How about you build groups instead of complaining?
Of course premade will run over pugs, destru or order.

The people who cry about pvp/balance are more or less never playing in a well organized group.
They get beaten by those premades-> "insert random complain here"

Edit: To answer the op, it doesn't matter which realm, if you play solo you will lose a lot more, if you play with premade you will mostly win.
by the way captain obvious - If "building your own groups" were easy, then premades would be all you see. Finding six people who know what they are doing, coordinate on mic, and play proper roles to fill out a group... is much easier said than done.

yes but thats the problem of the players! i cant explain whats going on in most brains of these kind of people ... ^^

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:10 pm
by herrmarek
Tiggo wrote:
mursie wrote:
tomato wrote:How about you build groups instead of complaining?
Of course premade will run over pugs, destru or order.

The people who cry about pvp/balance are more or less never playing in a well organized group.
They get beaten by those premades-> "insert random complain here"

Edit: To answer the op, it doesn't matter which realm, if you play solo you will lose a lot more, if you play with premade you will mostly win.
by the way captain obvious - If "building your own groups" were easy, then premades would be all you see. Finding six people who know what they are doing, coordinate on mic, and play proper roles to fill out a group... is much easier said than done.

yes but thats the problem of the players! i cant explain whats going on in most brains of these kind of people ... ^^
no, problem is much simplier, premades groups are made by nolifers, "pugs" or ordinary groups made by miscellaneous players are made by ordinary people, who have 1(mostly) max 2 free hours

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:12 pm
by mursie
Tiggo wrote:if you once tasted the sweet mana of an organized group you will hardly play solo again...

anyone not at least trying to get a (at least well composited) premade/organized group together for scs is just missing 90% of pvp fun IMHO...

most classes only shine in a group, guarded and healed well... play a slayer in a group and then solo and you will know what i mean ...

guarding a dps who does make damage and see enemies die is just such a better experience as of guarding that random dps who attack that def tank only for the whole 15 minutes of an sc and then gets out with 0 kills and complains how op tanks are on the forum ;)
You can't play an unguarded melee dps order side on NA primetime. I mean you can, but you won't be killing anything. Sadly, even guarded order mdps on NA primetime have limited success.

But yes - the overall point being made is absolutely true - playing solo (regardless of faction) is the ultimate nightmare. PVP will completely suck.

Still - if you plan to play order NA Primetime - roll a BW. You can at least dps from spawn during the snoozefest spawn camps.

Oh - and you're more likely to get guard because.... you know... order tanks are f%king braindead.

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:31 pm
by Fuklebark
Going back to the OPs question. It is isndeed very timezone dependant as to who has the advantage, but there's one other big thing to consider. A lot of the player base here is waiting for the release of t3 and the increased level cap before they start playing again. There's still folks playing now, don't get me wrong, but there's a lot more I haven't seen in months.

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:12 pm
by Gerv
Will have to try log in a little earlier, every night I log in there in nothing going on, but that is later Eastern time. Mursie, maybe you and us Old School players should try join up, I have seen u guys on most nights around the same time and you are all good players. How many do you usually run with each night?

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:21 pm
by mursie
Gerv wrote:Will have to try log in a little earlier, every night I log in there in nothing going on, but that is later Eastern time. Mursie, maybe you and us Old School players should try join up, I have seen u guys on most nights around the same time and you are all good players. How many do you usually run with each night?
For the most part there are 3 core players. Bearmace on his slayer - mavelle on his RP and myself relegated to a KotBS (if we had competent tanks I would run my WL). We have another 3 to 4 players that are sporadic (few WP's and BW's).

Would be happy to que sc's with you guys or run the lakes.

Dark Days out there.

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:36 pm
by Sulorie
herrmarek wrote:[

no, problem is much simplier, premades groups are made by nolifers, "pugs" or ordinary groups made by miscellaneous players are made by ordinary people, who have 1(mostly) max 2 free hours
Because having less time means you suck at the game?
Great excuse for being bad.

It's not about how long you play, it's about how you play and whether you learn from you mistakes.

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:56 pm
by Gerv
mursie wrote:
For the most part there are 3 core players. Bearmace on his slayer - mavelle on his RP and myself relegated to a KotBS (if we had competent tanks I would run my WL). We have another 3 to 4 players that are sporadic (few WP's and BW's).

Would be happy to que sc's with you guys or run the lakes.

Dark Days out there.
Great, thanks for the info, I will look for you and your guild tonight / in the coming days.

Re: How is the PvP?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:50 pm
by Tiggo
herrmarek wrote: no, problem is much simplier, premades groups are made by nolifers, "pugs" or ordinary groups made by miscellaneous players are made by ordinary people, who have 1(mostly) max 2 free hours

this excuse never gets old eh?

"uh im a casual player with only 2 hrs to play, that makes me a soziopath not being able to form a group." what a nonsense...