Return of Reckoning

if white lions were as strong as maras order would not complain

Jaycub wrote:http://waronlinebuilder.org/#career=mar ... 7:;0:0:0:0:

You get everything he said and more in this build (except the AP tactic idk why that was mentioned)

- 25% damage boost with no conditional
- AP regen debuff (stacks with other AP degens like shamans)

K, i thought he was talking about the AoE KD. Guess he meant the crappy Mutated energy KD. My bad.

mutated energy isn't bad just really unreliable, KD I don't think is that important in a group environment as your BG has the strongest one in the game, and I am not sure but the meta chosen build(s) run their 3 sec one as well? Choppa has one too granted its only 2 seconds.

With how immunities work in this game you can really take that burden off the mara, and he still technically has one even if it's conditional kinda sucks ass.

Jaycub wrote:mutated energy isn't bad just really unreliable, KD I don't think is that important in a group environment as your BG has the strongest one in the game, and I am not sure but the meta chosen build(s) run their 3 sec one as well? Choppa has one too granted its only 2 seconds.

With how immunities work in this game you can really take that burden off the mara, and he still technically has one even if it's conditional kinda sucks ass.

Oh yeah, Mara's arent supposed to be doing the KD. The spec you linked is pretty much the cookie cutter Mara spec for endgame.

Still, don't touch them unless you also plan on looking at Slayers.

>cookie cutter

As if this game really allows for anything else, trees/tactics/stat caps etc... dumb every thing down for almost all classes to have a clear cut best spec.

Slayer/Choppa aren't OP, it's outside mechanics that are making them so.

With fixed deadly clutch and PB i dont think mara will hit as hard or be as survivable as on live but if you want to nerf the classes survive by changing the leech heal or some thing then the tainted claw should be made into a base 50% hdebuff as that was one of the main reason to take the tactic


Also lets not pretend here that AoE slayer with shatter limbs, rampage and ID are not kinda ridiculous

And before you even start let me stop you; buffing choppas are not the solution, even with a shitty aoe tree the class is in a pretty good spot, its slayers that need to be looked at and some other apects that add to them like grp crit

Ahhhh... even a Dev. thread talking about a AAO bug suddenly turned into a "nerf Maras and Slayers" thread.

I'm proud of everyone. Good job.

Penril wrote:Ahhhh... even a Dev. thread talking about a AAO bug suddenly turned into a "nerf Maras and Slayers" thread.

I'm proud of everyone. Good job.

It's how we roll here

Coryphaus wrote:if white lions were as strong as maras order would not complain

Yeah... that's kind of the point.

No destro are complaining about balance changes when it comes to their classes, only orders.

Like I said, someone tried to make me look stupid by saying what I was saying was a show of irony, when in fact what I was saying was completely legitimate.

Ungrin wrote: Yeah... that's kind of the point.

No destro are complaining about balance changes when it comes to their classes, only orders.

Like I said, someone tried to make me look stupid by saying what I was saying was a show of irony, when in fact what I was saying was completely legitimate.

Pretty sure both sides complain equally about mara/slayer