Shaman vs Archemage

[Jaycub]

Why do people say shaman hits harder / has more burst than AM?

No scatter the winds/radiant gaze on shaman, AM can backload a lot of damage when they to get to the point in their rotation where they cast their channel. And while shaman is technically the better kiter their kit relies more on abilities with cast time compared to AM while in DPS, meaning they have to stop more.

[Sulorie]

Most of AM dmg is dot based, it rises and falls with cleansing and healing. I say healing because 2 dot ticks of their strongest dots are equal in damage to their 2 sec cast, it adds up to a lot damage over time.

The Sham 2sec cast, unlike the AM version, has a flight time, which makes it possible to hit with 3 direct damage spells in the same time stamp plus 2 average dots.

[Ridduk]

from a sub t4 perspective:
dps AM is alot more potent . dot you up , ap steal and /lol while you stand there and die.

[Sulorie]

from a sub t4 perspective:
dps AM is alot more potent . dot you up , ap steal and /lol while you stand there and die.

Don't enter evil archmage hunting ground, when you can't defend yourself alone. ^_^

[bandshark]

The Am is better vs a Shaman because of the Ap drain, and the Shamans inability to cleanse the AM. The Shaman is better vs everyone else. A Shaman can always choose to just leave and live to fight another day. Not always the case on an AM.

[Greatwarden]

Two points:

1. The harder it is to hit you, the harder it is to shut down your healing (let alone kill you).

2. I don't care if your heal output is 'almost as good as class X': if you're a cloth healer that can't kite you're going to need a dedicated tank to guard you, which is NOT using a tank to it's full capacity.

Sure a Shaman will need a guard once in a while, but the stationary AM will almost always be the first to be focused and, unless you're running 3 tanks in your 6-man, either the AM falls or the DPS that just lost its guard falls.

[Aceboltz]

A guildmate had high rr shaman AND archmage on live and has a rr40 shaman and a rr33 archmage here on ror.

He told me archmage is simply better by ~20%. Heals more, damages more, is slightly more tough and don't have to suffer op stuff like pounce and festering arrow.

I'm sure he can't be completely wrong.

[Vdova]

A guildmate had high rr shaman AND archmage on live and has a rr40 shaman and a rr33 archmage here on ror.

He told me archmage is simply better by ~20%. Heals more, damages more, is slightly more tough and don't have to suffer op stuff like pounce and festering arrow.

I'm sure he can't be completely wrong.

So glad, that even order players admit, they have more OP stuff, than destro. Fernstering arrow hits like a truck, but WLs pouncing around keep wall and top flor is just game breaking. No destro class can counter such tools.

[OldPlayer]

So glad, that even order players admit, they have more OP stuff, than destro. Fernstering arrow hits like a truck, but WLs pouncing around keep wall and top flor is just game breaking. No destro class can counter such tools.

In before Marauder.

[Coryphaus]

So glad, that even order players admit, they have more OP stuff, than destro. Fernstering arrow hits like a truck, but WLs pouncing around keep wall and top flor is just game breaking. No destro class can counter such tools.

In before Marauder.

summoning ulgrim in 3...2...