Return of Reckoning

OldPlayer wrote:

Penril wrote:But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

Because grind is part of every MMO game?

Do you know WHY grind is a part of any mmo?

hint: so you spend way more time in the game = spend more money in the game.

Penril wrote:OP is silly. But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

We already grinded for 5+ years in olf WAR. The objective of grinding is to keep you in game so you continue paying a sub; however, there are no sub fees in RoR.

It gets worse when you want to level an alt (your realm/guild needs more tanks, healers, etc).

RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR.

Agreed

Dana you're dev.. if you want Devastator then you changing scripts and you get it.. we need grind it and spent it our time.. give us a fun to play with no "fear" thst we are weak on RvR.. in live server sets was funny cheap.. why you won't do this here ?

No when I read peoples opinions here I get an enrage.

Especially this:

"RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR."

Then buy the **** gear from the RvR armor vendors ...

Antalor wrote:Dana you're dev.. if you want Devastator then you changing scripts and you get it.. we need grind it and spent it our time.. give us a fun to play with no "fear" thst we are weak on RvR.. in live server sets was funny cheap.. why you won't do this here ?

Really?You think we don't spend our time?`We are not allowed to do things like this!

Penril wrote:OP is silly. But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

We already grinded for 5+ years in olf WAR. The objective of grinding is to keep you in game so you continue paying a sub; however, there are no sub fees in RoR.

It gets worse when you want to level an alt (your realm/guild needs more tanks, healers, etc).

RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR.

I agree in 100%

Antalor wrote:Dana you're dev.. if you want Devastator then you changing scripts and you get it.. we need grind it and spent it our time.. give us a fun to play with no "fear" thst we are weak on RvR.. in live server sets was funny cheap.. why you won't do this here ?

Heh, you think devs can just cheat at will? What kind of operation do you think this is?

Penril wrote:OP is silly. But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

We already grinded for 5+ years in olf WAR. The objective of grinding is to keep you in game so you continue paying a sub; however, there are no sub fees in RoR.

It gets worse when you want to level an alt (your realm/guild needs more tanks, healers, etc).

RvR gear should be sold for silver and just require RR.

I personally HATE grinding, but I understand why it's in the game.

A lot of people enjoy the carrot on the stick, they like the RPG aspect of an MMO and progressing (growing) their character via items. People like this want to grind and get gear, they want to feel like they have an advantage because of the hard work they put in.

Without progression this would be closer to an arena style moba, in a much bigger setting.

Gear grind can also have to do with a lack of renown points working. Usually the RvR progression would be ranking your RR up, here that's not implemented.

Also, allowing players to buy all the gear at rr30 (we will say 30 for the sake of argument) will cause a power creep, between the players who are already 30 and those just starting out. With gear grinding, you may fight someone with one or two items, not someone with a full set.

I do agree the cost should be less if there is any intent in releasing T3 soon and making the gear useless tho. When the grind is setup to take 3 months and the new tier is coming out in less, it doesn't make sense.

OldPlayer wrote:

Penril wrote:But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

Because grind is part of every MMO game?

not really heavily focused pvp mmo's have very little gear grind due to focusing on balance within pvp it depends on what your end goals are

OldPlayer wrote:

Penril wrote:But there is something that i agree with: why do we need to grind?

Because grind is part of every MMO game?

Because, for the most part, the most influential MMO game had grinding elements and due to it's influence nearly all MMO's have grind? (You know which game i'm talking about)

Warhammer has always been about WAR, not about grinding.
The carrot on the stick is RR. And alts, if you're an altaholic.