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Jildaz
Posts: 168

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#11 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:17 am

I totally agree, the grudge to get the ability to punt is too much. Against any tank you are punted before the fight even begin and can't do anything about it. You have to slot a tactic to have enough grudge if you want to be a bit effective during the fight and even with Rising anger its too slow. Ofc you can swap oathfriend to build it, but require GCD, lot of efforts for "not so much" as a reward but just beeing able to actually play the class as it should do passively.

Imo Grudge should grow like slayer build rage.

Also the block requirement on SNB to be able to KD is a bad mechanic... CC on demand is what you need to secure kills, and IB can't event Punt or KD on demand sometimes because of those requirements.

If you telling me to play 2H, be my guest and try it with this rdps meta :)
Gwelthas : WL 87 The Eternal Host
Gwelthaz : IB 86 3rd Bitterstone Thunderers
Gweltaz : SL 84 3rd Bitterstone Thunderers
Gweltz : SW 84 The Eternal Host

Gwelth : marauder 80
Gwelt : BG 81

noronn
Posts: 89

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#12 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:01 pm

Jildaz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:17 am I totally agree, the grudge to get the ability to punt is too much. Against any tank you are punted before the fight even begin and can't do anything about it. You have to slot a tactic to have enough grudge if you want to be a bit effective during the fight and even with Rising anger its too slow. Ofc you can swap oathfriend to build it, but require GCD, lot of efforts for "not so much" as a reward but just beeing able to actually play the class as it should do passively.

Imo Grudge should grow like slayer build rage.

Also the block requirement on SNB to be able to KD is a bad mechanic... CC on demand is what you need to secure kills, and IB can't event Punt or KD on demand sometimes because of those requirements.

If you telling me to play 2H, be my guest and try it with this rdps meta :)
How do you have an 86 IB and say swapping oath friend uses a GCD????
Also for grudge generation use dwarven riposte.

RR86 btw

Jajcek12
Posts: 96

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#13 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:45 pm

It you get pounted on start of fight before gaining grudges, its very possible that opponent is not ready with rotation. IBs use to start fight before everyone by throwing axes and gaining grudges from rising anger(scenario)
Dwarven ripost is more effective in rvr where player will not always will be in "hit" range or safe spot for axe throw but still geting grudges from parry guard- helping geting fast into runic shield.
And also since rvr is snb build block is first test to pass.

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wardfan220
Posts: 233

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#14 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 4:40 pm

noronn wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:01 pm
Jildaz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:17 am I totally agree, the grudge to get the ability to punt is too much. Against any tank you are punted before the fight even begin and can't do anything about it. You have to slot a tactic to have enough grudge if you want to be a bit effective during the fight and even with Rising anger its too slow. Ofc you can swap oathfriend to build it, but require GCD, lot of efforts for "not so much" as a reward but just beeing able to actually play the class as it should do passively.

Imo Grudge should grow like slayer build rage.

Also the block requirement on SNB to be able to KD is a bad mechanic... CC on demand is what you need to secure kills, and IB can't event Punt or KD on demand sometimes because of those requirements.

If you telling me to play 2H, be my guest and try it with this rdps meta :)
How do you have an 86 IB and say swapping oath friend uses a GCD????
Also for grudge generation use dwarven riposte.

RR86 btw
So you're telling me you can cast Oath Friend immediately after casting it (0 cast time) and bypass the GCD that exists on EVERY skill? I don't think you understand what the GCD is there buddy.
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noronn
Posts: 89

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#15 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 6:10 pm

wardfan220 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 4:40 pm
noronn wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:01 pm
Jildaz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:17 am I totally agree, the grudge to get the ability to punt is too much. Against any tank you are punted before the fight even begin and can't do anything about it. You have to slot a tactic to have enough grudge if you want to be a bit effective during the fight and even with Rising anger its too slow. Ofc you can swap oathfriend to build it, but require GCD, lot of efforts for "not so much" as a reward but just beeing able to actually play the class as it should do passively.

Imo Grudge should grow like slayer build rage.

Also the block requirement on SNB to be able to KD is a bad mechanic... CC on demand is what you need to secure kills, and IB can't event Punt or KD on demand sometimes because of those requirements.

If you telling me to play 2H, be my guest and try it with this rdps meta :)
How do you have an 86 IB and say swapping oath friend uses a GCD????
Also for grudge generation use dwarven riposte.

RR86 btw
So you're telling me you can cast Oath Friend immediately after casting it (0 cast time) and bypass the GCD that exists on EVERY skill? I don't think you understand what the GCD is there buddy.
It is literally off gcd "pal" - what are you trying to say?

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Stinksuit
Posts: 509

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#16 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 7:21 pm

noronn wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 6:10 pm
wardfan220 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 4:40 pm
noronn wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:01 pm

How do you have an 86 IB and say swapping oath friend uses a GCD????
Also for grudge generation use dwarven riposte.

RR86 btw
So you're telling me you can cast Oath Friend immediately after casting it (0 cast time) and bypass the GCD that exists on EVERY skill? I don't think you understand what the GCD is there buddy.
It is literally off gcd "pal" - what are you trying to say?

Click here to watch on YouTube
I think he is confusing the "cd" Oath friend has when you use it to gcd. That's my guess

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Jildaz
Posts: 168

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#17 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 7:59 pm

noronn wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 3:01 pm
Jildaz wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 9:17 am I totally agree, the grudge to get the ability to punt is too much. Against any tank you are punted before the fight even begin and can't do anything about it. You have to slot a tactic to have enough grudge if you want to be a bit effective during the fight and even with Rising anger its too slow. Ofc you can swap oathfriend to build it, but require GCD, lot of efforts for "not so much" as a reward but just beeing able to actually play the class as it should do passively.

Imo Grudge should grow like slayer build rage.

Also the block requirement on SNB to be able to KD is a bad mechanic... CC on demand is what you need to secure kills, and IB can't event Punt or KD on demand sometimes because of those requirements.

If you telling me to play 2H, be my guest and try it with this rdps meta :)
How do you have an 86 IB and say swapping oath friend uses a GCD????
Also for grudge generation use dwarven riposte.

RR86 btw
Dwarven Riposte against Rdps meta, if you can parry spells, let me know.
Yes it use a CD you can't cast it at the same time as any other ability, just like a stance. (not GCD, wrong explanation from my part)
no need to patronize me with RR? I know how to play and what i am saying. You are completly out of the subject anyway and what i said. Pointing out one thing over all i said, plz restrain yourself of posting if you have nothing interesrting to say.
Yes you can throw axe and build grugde but you need Rising anger, not dwarven riposte. Like I said, efforts to play better for no reward.
Gwelthas : WL 87 The Eternal Host
Gwelthaz : IB 86 3rd Bitterstone Thunderers
Gweltaz : SL 84 3rd Bitterstone Thunderers
Gweltz : SW 84 The Eternal Host

Gwelth : marauder 80
Gwelt : BG 81

throkonius
Posts: 9

Re: IB punt needs a buff..

Post#18 » Wed Aug 26, 2026 8:31 pm

Naaaaw

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