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Re: ugly regen meta to solve
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 12:25 am
by salazarn
No one complains about regen mara or regen tanks or regen WH
The problem is regen witch elf. The problem is witch elf.
Re: ugly regen meta to solve
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 10:07 am
by rrrutsss
salazarn wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 12:25 am
No one complains about regen mara or regen tanks or regen WH
The problem is regen witch elf. The problem is witch elf.
Its the passive regen that comes from rr and items/gem that is dumb and cant be debuffed.
AP regen can be debuffed but HP cant.
Make it make sense
Re: ugly regen meta to solve
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 1:19 pm
by Sinisterror
Panzer80 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 8:44 pm
Sinisterror wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 5:02 pm
Remove the Grimshimmer chest, Regen pocket and the most important thing, is to change back to faster GCD. Regen started to dominate after changing Gcd to 1.5s from 1.15s - Meaning you can do 6 abilities in 10 seconds. With 1.15s GCD it was 8 abilities in 10 seconds. Also the Narrative "Balance is not done based on 1v1" is not true, Balance is done with attitude " if there is negative aspect to soloplay its always a good thing "
This 20-25% slowing of the gameplay is main reason for Regen to dominate. Also every unique, hard hitting "OP" skills have been blanded/copy pasted and ofc best ones removed. Also 1 toughness negates 1 str/bal/int. In Aor 1 toughness negated 0.5str. Combat Formula also had Double Str contribution for "Special" Abilities, but your targets touhgness was also doubled against that special ability. I dont know why RoR would even change this to super simplified version
https://imgur.com/a/warhammer-online-ao ... ms-dErmlAx Those 2-3k absorbs didnt create situations where full dps cannot kill him because of regen. 25% Faster gameplay is the answer with reverting nerfs to crit dmg/crit amounts, and so much more but this is a good start.
https://imgur.com/a/warhammer-original-glory-3gwL5FQ Who wouldnt love Kotbs doing 2800dmg in 1 shatter from 65ft away? Or Shaman with Odjira+Run Away tactic+Run away renown ability = 115% Speed buff : D All of this is fun which makes the game, when you remove all of the fun there is not really much WAR left in RoR:(
What a terrible post. The game was a mess with the old GCD and there doesn't need to be more low-skill high damage spam. You probably live right on top of the server.
What exactly makes 25% slower gameplay high skill gameplay? I don't understand the logic of " If you react faster than me equals you are low skilled spammer? I know Regen gear itself is not the issue, that was what I was saying with slower GCD being the true issue rewarding passive/slower gameplay.
Re: ugly regen meta to solve
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 5:42 pm
by Shieldslam
salazarn wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 12:25 am
No one complains about regen mara or regen tanks or regen WH
The problem is regen witch elf. The problem is witch elf.
I, amongst a few others, are complaining about those as well and have been for years (in fact my first forum post was stating how disgusting def IB is).
WH can build 85%+ parry and coupled with RB/M1 be nearly untouchable by melees. def Mara is unbelievably boring to fight and seemingly immortal against phys melee. Regen tanks are nearly invincible and basically just bore you to death. WL/Engi are part of that problem too. What do all of those have in common? You don't have to fight any of them if you don't want to and that's where the problem is. They all get hardcountered by kiting, do not have substantial DPS or any mobility/stealth. WE simply highlights the unfair nature of those builds with her newfound mobility and a magical dot centric skillset which requires the bare minimum of effort and investment. In its current form the class simply has no direct/clear weakness, having less burstdmg than the glasscannon build isn't one either when you pump dots out like crazy.
I always tell people to just walk away from defbuilds but you cannot do that with WE anymore and being forced to fight someone you mathematically cannot beat is quite the dreadful experience.
Re: ugly regen meta to solve
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:36 pm
by hordak774
Sinisterror wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 5:02 pm
Remove the Grimshimmer chest, Regen pocket and the most important thing, is to change back to faster GCD. Regen started to dominate after changing Gcd to 1.5s from 1.15s - Meaning you can do 6 abilities in 10 seconds. With 1.15s GCD it was 8 abilities in 10 seconds. Also the Narrative "Balance is not done based on 1v1" is not true, Balance is done with attitude " if there is negative aspect to soloplay its always a good thing "
This 20-25% slowing of the gameplay is main reason for Regen to dominate. Also every unique, hard hitting "OP" skills have been blanded/copy pasted and ofc best ones removed. Also 1 toughness negates 1 str/bal/int. In Aor 1 toughness negated 0.5str. Combat Formula also had Double Str contribution for "Special" Abilities, but your targets touhgness was also doubled against that special ability. I dont know why RoR would even change this to super simplified version
https://imgur.com/a/warhammer-online-ao ... ms-dErmlAx Those 2-3k absorbs didnt create situations where full dps cannot kill him because of regen. 25% Faster gameplay is the answer with reverting nerfs to crit dmg/crit amounts, and so much more but this is a good start.
https://imgur.com/a/warhammer-original-glory-3gwL5FQ Who wouldnt love Kotbs doing 2800dmg in 1 shatter from 65ft away? Or Shaman with Odjira+Run Away tactic+Run away renown ability = 115% Speed buff : D All of this is fun which makes the game, when you remove all of the fun there is not really much WAR left in RoR:(
REVERT GCD TO 1.15 its what this game need, it become too slow. this pots clicking like slow motion is something
Re: ugly regen meta to solve
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2026 7:08 pm
by wildwindblows
1.15 gcd will make range classes even stronger. They will spam more from far.
Any melee class which have 3sec kd will kill much more fasta.
This change will make OP classes much more stronger so i think it wont be a comprehensive change.