Return of Reckoning

shoelessHN wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 6:29 pm

Dwarni wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 9:54 am

Bozzax wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 7:38 am Doks / wps cant really flip btw heal or dps

But they can use it to abuse the system so enemy gets one healer less. And I've seen them do it.

I love how the goalposts have moved from months ago "stop making scs where one side has zero healers" to "one healer less".

As if the zero balance of trash players playing DPS and Tank classes has no impact on scs.

Not quite, more like Healers on this server are so overtuned it takes 2-3 DPS in mid tier SCs in order to kill them. So in mid-tier SCs, yes they are a massive difference over DPS and Tanks.

Do you not realize this or are you simply unable to grasp the simple concept that classes that get massive buffs to survivability and healing, are hard to kill, and if only one side gets them, its hard to fight against?

Yea this seems like a non-issue. I'm not losing scens because they have one more healer, or vice-versa.

Alstragon wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 8:54 pm

shoelessHN wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 6:29 pm

Dwarni wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 9:54 am

But they can use it to abuse the system so enemy gets one healer less. And I've seen them do it.

I love how the goalposts have moved from months ago "stop making scs where one side has zero healers" to "one healer less".

As if the zero balance of trash players playing DPS and Tank classes has no impact on scs.

Not quite, more like Healers on this server are so overtuned it takes 2-3 DPS in mid tier SCs in order to kill them. So in mid-tier SCs, yes they are a massive difference over DPS and Tanks.

Do you not realize this or are you simply unable to grasp the simple concept that classes that get massive buffs to survivability and healing, are hard to kill, and if only one side gets them, its hard to fight against?

Healers are overtuned bc it takes 2 DPS to kill them, wow. And I'm sure they are going to get right on it for this mid-tier balancing "problem".

Alstragon wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 8:54 pm

shoelessHN wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 6:29 pm

Dwarni wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 9:54 am

But they can use it to abuse the system so enemy gets one healer less. And I've seen them do it.

I love how the goalposts have moved from months ago "stop making scs where one side has zero healers" to "one healer less".

As if the zero balance of trash players playing DPS and Tank classes has no impact on scs.

Not quite, more like Healers on this server are so overtuned it takes 2-3 DPS in mid tier SCs in order to kill them. So in mid-tier SCs, yes they are a massive difference over DPS and Tanks.

Do you not realize this or are you simply unable to grasp the simple concept that classes that get massive buffs to survivability and healing, are hard to kill, and if only one side gets them, its hard to fight against?

You sound like one of the problem players I was talking about.

shoelessHN wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 6:29 pm I love how the goalposts have moved from months ago "stop making scs where one side has zero healers" to "one healer less".

As if the zero balance of trash players playing DPS and Tank classes has no impact on scs.

One healer less can also mean 0 healers. And of course also the other classes effect a scenario with random players but healers probably effect it more to some extend. If you have too many than more healers won't add much to the group anymore.

gisborne wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2026 9:23 pm Yea this seems like a non-issue. I'm not losing scens because they have one more healer, or vice-versa.

Depends on the group constellation. If one side has healing intensive classes like bright wizard, sorceresses, slayers, choppers, having a healer or not will highly impact the chance of winning.

Healers are overtuned bc it takes 2 DPS to kill them, wow. And I'm sure they are going to get right on it for this mid-tier balancing "problem".
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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize that they were only caring about t4?

This affects people leveling and joining the game, you know, the actual life blood of the game. So instead of attempting to come across as somehow better than others, accept that having a healer on one side and not on the other does in fact have a huge impact on mid-tier queues.

If you cannot understand that much, not much else I can say to help you with that.