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Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:42 pm
by zgolec
...all that whine and no one bat an eye here that WE got pounce and WH dont have any gap closer like this
So yeah... W/E
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:51 pm
by M0rw47h
zgolec wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:42 pm
...all that whine and no one bat an eye here that WE got pounce and WH dont have any gap closer like this
So yeah... W/E
Because thats not how it was mirrored.
WL has pounce, while Marauder doesn't. WE has pounce, while WH doesn't.
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:34 pm
by dirnsterer
Stinksuit wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 1:03 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 12:57 pm
Stinksuit wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 12:31 pm
While I understand the argument that wh uses pistols for finishers etc and WE has daggers. This whole thing goes down the drain (imo) when you introduce "Broad severing" (slice aoe tactic) that hits all enemies to 25ft infront of you...
I am not give my opinion on the matter whether the range change is good or bad but the "explanation/reasoning" just doesnt work due to the aoe slice hitting 24 people at once and it also having range to it..
Yeah, and same tactic let WH turn his pistol into machine gun?
Kinda yeah.. I havent played my wh at all after the changes and WE only few times to give any balance opinions but as soon as I heard the "reason" of one having gun and one having dagger I just instantly thought that its a bit of a poor explanation due to WE having access to the ranged aoe spammable but oh well.
Change it back to like it was during launch, WH finishers scale off ballistic skill instead of str :^)
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:46 pm
by illumius
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:51 pm
zgolec wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:42 pm
...all that whine and no one bat an eye here that WE got pounce and WH dont have any gap closer like this
So yeah... W/E
Because thats not how it was mirrored.
WL has pounce, while Marauder doesn't. WE has pounce, while WH doesn't.
SH has pounce. WE is currently the most unbalanced class. Extreme damage, amazing survivability, high mobility, a lot of damage, and invisibility. Good players simply have no chance of losing. The server lost its population again, as the developers did not fix the problem of the superiority of destruction classes
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:57 pm
by M0rw47h
illumius wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:46 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:51 pm
zgolec wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:42 pm
...all that whine and no one bat an eye here that WE got pounce and WH dont have any gap closer like this
So yeah... W/E
Because thats not how it was mirrored.
WL has pounce, while Marauder doesn't. WE has pounce, while WH doesn't.
SH has pounce. WE is currently the most unbalanced class. Extreme damage, amazing survivability, high mobility, a lot of damage, and invisibility. Good players simply have no chance of losing. The server lost its population again, as the developers did not fix the problem of the superiority of destruction classes
Yeah, SH has pounce. WE has different Shadowstep.
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:00 pm
by borc1
anything that hurts solo specs is a step towards making game better
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:29 pm
by illumius
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:57 pm
illumius wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:46 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:51 pm
Because thats not how it was mirrored.
WL has pounce, while Marauder doesn't. WE has pounce, while WH doesn't.
SH has pounce. WE is currently the most unbalanced class. Extreme damage, amazing survivability, high mobility, a lot of damage, and invisibility. Good players simply have no chance of losing. The server lost its population again, as the developers did not fix the problem of the superiority of destruction classes
Yeah, SH has pounce. WE has different Shadowstep.
Shadowstep has been broken for more than two years
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:37 pm
by M0rw47h
illumius wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:29 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:57 pm
illumius wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:46 pm
SH has pounce. WE is currently the most unbalanced class. Extreme damage, amazing survivability, high mobility, a lot of damage, and invisibility. Good players simply have no chance of losing. The server lost its population again, as the developers did not fix the problem of the superiority of destruction classes
Yeah, SH has pounce. WE has different Shadowstep.
Shadowstep has been broken for more than two years
So, ask for fixing it.
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 8:39 pm
by Alubert
illumius wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 3:46 pm
M0rw47h wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:51 pm
zgolec wrote: Thu Dec 25, 2025 2:42 pm
...all that whine and no one bat an eye here that WE got pounce and WH dont have any gap closer like this
So yeah... W/E
Because thats not how it was mirrored.
WL has pounce, while Marauder doesn't. WE has pounce, while WH doesn't.
SH has pounce. WE is currently the most unbalanced class. Extreme damage, amazing survivability, high mobility, a lot of damage, and invisibility. Good players simply have no chance of losing. The server lost its population again, as the developers did not fix the problem of the superiority of destruction classes
A detailed description of WL before the patch (it also had extremely powerful AoE): p
There is always one class that is the strongest, and it doesn't always have to be WL.
Now it's WE/WH and SL.
Despite everything, I consider the patch to be very successful.
(I should add that I don't have WE/WH).
Re: I'm sad WE lost range
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2025 9:26 pm
by Panzer80
Never should have had the range.