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Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:00 am
by Endari
Demonito wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:39 am Sure is already disturbing, last version didn't have that malus
That's why I wrote "rework" as to be something brand new, a 15s SE regen stop would be silly ofc
Good good as 15 sec without SE regen would really suck, but I kinda get what they are trying with Drowning in Blood. A situational ability that you need to think about instead of just use in rotation, it sorta works and I fully expect dps DoKs to get a nerf in the upcoming dps rework. It pushed the dps DoK much closer to a full mdps, enough so it really needs a kd or disarm added.

Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:06 am
by Alubert
Kind of reminds me of the saying “give a finger and they'll take your whole hand” :)

Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:03 am
by hordak774
order have only 1 thing op right now its wl

Re: Please make DPS DoK fun again

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2025 7:12 pm
by Demonito
Endari wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 5:00 am
Demonito wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 4:39 am Sure is already disturbing, last version didn't have that malus
That's why I wrote "rework" as to be something brand new, a 15s SE regen stop would be silly ofc
Good good as 15 sec without SE regen would really suck, but I kinda get what they are trying with Drowning in Blood. A situational ability that you need to think about instead of just use in rotation, it sorta works and I fully expect dps DoKs to get a nerf in the upcoming dps rework. It pushed the dps DoK much closer to a full mdps, enough so it really needs a kd or disarm added.

Exactly
Drowning in Blood can now be used in two ways :
Easy mode where you simply use it for Wracking Agony or Sanguinary Extension if you are full of SE
Hardcore when you will spam it on CD, to combine with Essence Lash right after the buff ends
That rotation is better for your dps but way more annoying as you have to keep track on buff timer + your SE
In either way, having to cast that spell on 5s CD or before every Wracking Agony is really boring
Not sure if you want a nerf or add kd/disarm?

Alubert wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 10:06 am Kind of reminds me of the saying “give a finger and they'll take your whole hand” :)

"DiB" doesn't lower your CD anymore and only buff spells for their previous version
It's that new Arpen spell for both dok/wp that was a crazy boost out of nowhere
Lifetap new system is more an issue for shield spec
Dok is quite a real dps now, I only wish a rework of the spell being 5s CD
A normal CD buff or a toggle like choppa Hurtin'Time would be way more fun

hordak774 wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 11:03 am order have only 1 thing op right now its wl

WP seem as good as dok but Slayer could indeed get a boost