Re: Recent Changes about Warrior Priest espesially.
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:09 pm
Well everything depends of the playstyle and the environment i guess. For small scale and scens i have wp exalted defence quite rarely while dok crit mod is up no matter what. On dok i could play more back to mid lane while on wp you need to be more at the front to guarantee the procleftayparxoun wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:58 pmNameless wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 5:23 pmBound by blood, transfusion, khaine's withdrawal.leftayparxoun wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:16 pm
Curious to see why you'd say Dok has better healing output compared to WP. If you'd not mind elaborating.
Especially bound by blood is ridiculously strong. Dok/wp weak point is lack of brust healing and need to manage resourse useage that you somehow cover with increased healing crit and -10 se on restore essence while making it casted while move is huge.
Khaine's Withdrawal is quite good in certain situations, for sure.
Transfusion is also nice to have, but I am not sure if there is room to slot it especially in large scale.
Giving away Discipline would result to a net healing loss (a bit more on the ST hot but less everywhere else).
Giving away Bound by Blood is not an option since it's one of your best tactics.
Giving away Khaine's Vivification is also not an option unless you have a Zealot/2nd DOK in the party.
And finally, for the last tactic slot (or 2 last slots if you don't have to slot Vivification) you have these contenders:
- Transfusion
- Khaine's Bounty
- Efficient Patching
I'd argue that, in most cases, Khaine's Bounty is mandatory and finally Potent Covenants will be more useful overall if you have the 2nd slot.
- Potent Covenants
But I guess that you can slot Transfusion if you don't need Khaine's Vivification in small-scale.
Lastly, Bound by Blood.
It is very strong, yes, but it is still clearly inferior to WP's Exalted Defenses.
Assuming that both WP and DOK have the same Healing Bonus (Willpower + Healing Power), then the only differences between the same abilities lie within the Healing Critical modifier and the Outgoing Healing modifier.
Those are multiplicative and the former is equal to 1 + (healing_crit%+0.10)*critical_healing while the later is simply 1 + outgoing_heal_bonus%
For common endgame WP/DOK builds, you end up with 33% or 38% healing crit chance (depending on if you have 3 or 4 levels of heal crit in renown)
For 33% crit, the product of those modifiers is:
- DOK: (1+0.43*0.70)*1 = 1.30
and for 38% crit, the product of those modifiers is:
- WP: (1+0.43*0.45)*1.20 = 1.43
- DOK: (1+0.48*0.70)*1 = 1.34
Even for DOKs going full in on heal crit%, a WP with 5% less crit (to account for more avoidances investment) will still heal for 6.7% more if Exalted Defenses is up. When comparing the same builds, they would be healing for 10% and 9% better respectively.
- WP: (1+0.48*0.45)*1.20 = 1.46
Even if we factor in Transfusion here, for DOK to heal as good as a WP on Exalted Defenses their ST heal contribution from their ST HoT would have to be (1+0.25*x = 1.10 -->) 40%. Meaning that their HoTs would have to comprise 40% of their heals. Is that possible? Maybe in smallscale/6v6.
Granted WP's Exalted Defenses is also more unreliable in that content.
I would say that in any environment where Exalted Defenses has a reliable uptime (12+v12+), Warrior Priest is the better healer in output. Even more so not-BIS gear since Bound by Blood scales with healing crit% while the value of Exalted Defenses stays constant.