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Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:36 pm
by Luuca
My warped mind automatically went to Mixed Def. I now realize he was talking about Supression - my apologies. I freely admit I'm rusty as hell. I'll try to think/read better from now on.
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 7:52 am
by Tesq
sword master 2h have a +50% channeling to parry , dodge, disrupt, hence why that skill last 5 seconds, cos SM can buff his block too (total 15%), a tank that can buff his block do not spec parry, it geos full block usually, unless 2h, hence why a 5 sec buff. Otherwise you would just have for base a 75% of parry in 2h due the channeling with out even a single point spent in renow or a tactic used.
You should instead think that even after have a +15% block buff you still have a total of +30% parry buff with shield and +75%-50% buff when in 2h channeling :/
As tank you have no problem regarding def :/
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:18 am
by Azarael
Wall of Darting Steel does not stack with Eagle's Flight, at least on RoR, because they're both in the "Buff" stacking group, so that argument is not relevant.
How a stat stacks on RoR:
- All items
- All talismans
- The highest value buff or potion
- The highest value morale
- ALL tactics
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:46 pm
by altharion1
Can whispering wind and crashing wave be moved down their respective mastery trees to the 5+1 position?
This might encourage a few more to play a really quite useless class in T2 (when compared to IB and KOTBS)
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:52 pm
by Azarael
Of the two, I think only Crashing Wave should be considered for a position reduction, and then only if Down Ya Go! receives the same benefit.
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:59 pm
by altharion1
Azarael wrote:Of the two, I think only Crashing Wave should be considered for a position reduction, and then only if Down Ya Go! receives the same benefit.
Agreed the BO would have to have the mirrored abilities moved. I understand why you wouldn't want to move whispering wind.
I can't see SMs being taken over IBs and Kotbs even if they did get crashing wave at 5+1. But it would make me feel like i could influence situations a little more with the knockdown as a SM.
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:03 pm
by Azarael
Well, with the next cap increase, both Dirty Tricks and Encouraged Aim come into the picture for KotBS, so I guess the start of SM decline can be officially marked.
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:21 pm
by altharion1
Azarael wrote:Well, with the next cap increase, both Dirty Tricks and Encouraged Aim come into the picture for KotBS, so I guess the start of SM decline can be officially marked.
You're in control, why not do something about it?
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:48 pm
by Azarael
Because this project isn't just about me and what I might want to do. Without support for taking that action from the community, I won't do it.
Re: Some SM abilities are too short in duration
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:59 pm
by altharion1
Azarael wrote:Because this project just isn't about me and what I might want to do. Without support for taking that action from the community, I won't do it.
Very true. I just thought it was common consensus that SM and BO lacked the basic tank utilities. SM and BO were about to get a love patch on the live server, so I'd hope the community would agree that these classes require some small changes.
I don't think any SM would dare dream of something like dirty tricks though!