2X Renown and Crests on Weekends Permanently

[kleinbuchstabe]

People play pvp games to pvp not collect gear. There were far more concurrent players on the server when the level cap was 28 and you could get BiS in like two weeks, so the argument of 'people will quit if they max their character' absolutely does not hold up imo.

Not everyone wants to be at the mercy of some random pug pve group as their only means of progression, nor should pve be the best way to progress a new character (and it currently is).

100% agree with this.

Best time on server imo was, when conqueror set was BIS. Fast to reach, attratictive to lvl alts, and balanced PvP. Believe it or not, but the "roflstomping endgear premades" got more fun against equal equiped groups, than farming low geared pugs.

In the past i had some RL friends, starting a grp on order. Took me a while to explain the group mechanics, how to play with assist and so on, but until lvl 39 we had a lot of fun. Then rank 40 came, and guess what. When they started to realize how huge the grind will be, until we will have the same fun again like we had before, all of them lost interest and quit. The grind is game breaking. New players are not happy about being a no-chance-victim for the next 3-6 month.

And now the solution should be in PvE... i mean, i like the changes with the sets. But: If i would have told my firends back in the days, ok guys, we had some pvp fun, now lets do PvE, to be able to do PvP again.... ehm... what? They didnt came for PvE. They were here for PvP, and had lot of fun, and they would have stayed if the progress would be faster and the prospect of sucess not many months away.

And even myself is absolutely not motivated, to grind up an alt. Most players here are not in their 20s anymore, got an engaging real life, and dont got the time to grind up a new char from zero, even with the PvE changes. It takes too long. We dont got time for this.

That being said, i think the best way for the game would be a reduction of the grind. Like, double the renown, halve the crest costs for PvP equip. That simple. Im pretty sure there would be a huge revival in the game.

[NoEternity]

As people have lamented before, scenarios should be tiered by rr. The grind becomes extremely hard when you are 40/40-60, get like 200-400 rps from that bo/box (IF you manage to deliver it!) and know how you will be absolutely stomped both here and there and have no options. Well, obviously, you can always try, but from what I've heard, many many low rr players forego scenarions when they hit 40
Or yeah, just enable the double rp to be either always or on weekends. That way, there's always something to do. Like, 300 aao? With double rp? 2 BOs and 1 box is like 4k rps. There's always incentive to try, go out, work towards caping. Not like "uh oh, we are getting stomped, why should I try for those measly 500-250 points"

[shamallow]

Most players here are not in their 20s anymore, got an engaging real life, and dont got the time to grind up a new char from zero, even with the PvE changes. It takes too long. We dont got time for this.

That is so true.

[Delerium69]

Most players here are not in their 20s anymore, got an engaging real life, and dont got the time to grind up a new char from zero, even with the PvE changes. It takes too long. We dont got time for this.

That is so true.

true that.... the young ones are off playing hello kitty and space marine.... us old timers are here on a 10 year old game having fun and reminiscing of the old times....

[jafh123]

Yeah, double rr was also good for sub40 characters as well. Just run boxes in Troll Country for an hour with +10% pie and 25% potion active, no need to even try (and die miserably) in rvr. End up with 15k rr and a gold/purple bag without even defending the keep, not to mention at least 1-2 ranks gained from boxes

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[Mistz]

Dark age of camelot had a very easy way to balance that problem: it gave a huge RR bonus to low ranks, like from rank 10 to 20, a big bonus bonus to rr from 20 to 40, an average rr bonus from 40 to 60, and a small rr bonus from 60 to 80. It would make it easier for lower rr people to catch up a little and have fun a little faster.

[georgehabadasher]

People play pvp games to pvp not collect gear. There were far more concurrent players on the server when the level cap was 28 and you could get BiS in like two weeks, so the argument of 'people will quit if they max their character' absolutely does not hold up imo.

Not everyone wants to be at the mercy of some random pug pve group as their only means of progression, nor should pve be the best way to progress a new character (and it currently is).

100% agree with this.

Best time on server imo was, when conqueror set was BIS. Fast to reach, attratictive to lvl alts, and balanced PvP. Believe it or not, but the "roflstomping endgear premades" got more fun against equal equiped groups, than farming low geared pugs.

In the past i had some RL friends, starting a grp on order. Took me a while to explain the group mechanics, how to play with assist and so on, but until lvl 39 we had a lot of fun. Then rank 40 came, and guess what. When they started to realize how huge the grind will be, until we will have the same fun again like we had before, all of them lost interest and quit. The grind is game breaking. New players are not happy about being a no-chance-victim for the next 3-6 month.

And now the solution should be in PvE... i mean, i like the changes with the sets. But: If i would have told my firends back in the days, ok guys, we had some pvp fun, now lets do PvE, to be able to do PvP again.... ehm... what? They didnt came for PvE. They were here for PvP, and had lot of fun, and they would have stayed if the progress would be faster and the prospect of sucess not many months away.

And even myself is absolutely not motivated, to grind up an alt. Most players here are not in their 20s anymore, got an engaging real life, and dont got the time to grind up a new char from zero, even with the PvE changes. It takes too long. We dont got time for this.

That being said, i think the best way for the game would be a reduction of the grind. Like, double the renown, halve the crest costs for PvP equip. That simple. Im pretty sure there would be a huge revival in the game.

Post of the year. Sums up the main issues of the game succinctly.

[Toshutkidup]

This server had a system years ago that once you hit 40RR you lost 50% RR gain. Then Once you hit 80.. you gained zero RR as 80 was the "cap" . People were playing and earning zero.crests earned in kills wasn't a thing years ago.

Believe me things have gotten so much easier to gain and earn. Not to mention "wasting" crests in low ur gear shouldn't be a thing as lobbies gear is a lot cheaper, some of it is trade able . If ur not playing in guilds that passing crests, help out it's Guidies then change guilds.Pve sets that skip having to earn pvp gear until endgame if you wish.

I see people constant giving out free Conq/Anni/merc and even some Vanq gear.

[georgehabadasher]

Shocking that the rr90 player finds no issues with the current gear gap or gear grind.

[Toshutkidup]

Shocking that the rr90 player finds no issues with the current gear gap or gear grind.

this RR 90 player has played for 8 years grinding his ass off.. so no , I see no issue with it.took me 8 months to get my SoV/WL set.. its called earning not given. And since wanna point me out tell ya more how I struggled. I dont do ANY PvE,Cities,LoTD and I solo... so now what. tell me my advantages