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Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:28 pm
by Tisaya
Skullgrin wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:22 pm
Tisaya wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:19 pm
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HA! Love this, are there more somewhere?
Maybe! There's a lot about warhammer. Have to sort through all the comics the artist made since the early 2000's to find if there any more about specifically about WAR, though

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... ivesOfMobs

Decades later, it's still on point

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Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:44 pm
by Lion1986
This game is not respecting the lore. Devs might have chosen tzeentch due to magus being dps caster so would be hard fit something for khorne instead.
This game is wrhammer fantasy in skins but not in true lore (a good example is being chosen male only where in lore you have Dechala and Valkia that before coming demons they were essentially chosen) other thing to consider is that the more marks they put the more spells devs should have made (you cannot summon pink horror as gurgle faithful magus for example) so they slapped the most easy one to fit and called the day.
Also lore wise think about witch elf being stealth class were in true lore they are basically elven berserker...

Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:54 am
by MaxHayman
Lion1986 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:44 pm This game is not respecting the lore. Devs might have chosen tzeentch due to magus being dps caster so would be hard fit something for khorne instead.
This game is wrhammer fantasy in skins but not in true lore (a good example is being chosen male only where in lore you have Dechala and Valkia that before coming demons they were essentially chosen) other thing to consider is that the more marks they put the more spells devs should have made (you cannot summon pink horror as gurgle faithful magus for example) so they slapped the most easy one to fit and called the day.
Also lore wise think about witch elf being stealth class were in true lore they are basically elven berserker...
They worked very very closely with Games Workshop to make this game. Every decision like that went through them.

Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:55 am
by MaxHayman
Tisaya wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:28 pm
Skullgrin wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2025 7:22 pm
Tisaya wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 4:19 pm
Spoiler:
Image

HA! Love this, are there more somewhere?
Maybe! There's a lot about warhammer. Have to sort through all the comics the artist made since the early 2000's to find if there any more about specifically about WAR, though

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... ivesOfMobs

Decades later, it's still on point

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Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 6:15 am
by Lion1986
MaxHayman wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 5:54 am
Lion1986 wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 4:44 pm This game is not respecting the lore. Devs might have chosen tzeentch due to magus being dps caster so would be hard fit something for khorne instead.
This game is wrhammer fantasy in skins but not in true lore (a good example is being chosen male only where in lore you have Dechala and Valkia that before coming demons they were essentially chosen) other thing to consider is that the more marks they put the more spells devs should have made (you cannot summon pink horror as gurgle faithful magus for example) so they slapped the most easy one to fit and called the day.
Also lore wise think about witch elf being stealth class were in true lore they are basically elven berserker...
They worked very very closely with Games Workshop to make this game. Every decision like that went through them.
I know, yet is totally lore inaccurate. Gw just sold em permission to use warhammer world for their game.

Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:31 am
by Rabenfeder
Even though Tzeench is a given, you can still play a Chosen, the barbarian, for all the gods. The Zealot also fits well with Nurgle and Slaanesh; even the Druchii work with Slaanesh. The Magus has a harder time with his stupid disc, even though he can summon a Nurgling.

Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 5:03 am
by MelonPlayground
If you've delved into the comics included with the collector's edition of the original game, it provides a clearer context. The leader of the Raven Host, Tchar-whatever, unites the fractured tribes of Norsca, all of whom venerate different chaos deities. His rise to power means we'll encounter NPCs representing all the Chaos gods, including followers of Khorne in places like Bastion Stair.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... ivesOfMobs melon playground

Essentially, the Raven Host can be seen as a chaotic, undivided faction, with Tzeentch as the mastermind behind their schemes.

Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2025 11:27 am
by ravezaar
very few Companies are as strict with there IP as GW is, just look at CA Total War series, GW stopped quite a few things over there years and GW themselfs basicly made Cathay with CA for the 3rd game and now when Cathay was launched for the Old world with there new Minis we see its basicly copies.

It is my fav IP of em all tho and the Lore is superb but yea they are strict

Re: Is there a lore reason why all chaos humans are Tzeentch related?

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2025 8:44 am
by momeyi3808
You're absolutely right, uno onlinelore-wise, Chaos worshippers should span all gods, and while the game's focus on Tzeentch may stem from design limitations or balance, it definitely misses the rich potential of Khorne, Nurgle, and Slaanesh in varied roles.