Return of Reckoning

Wyzard wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:40 am Being driven up on the barriers by premades with nowhere to run means you are basically in an octogon in every scenario... yea this won't just drive new players away but old dedicated players as well who do not have the time to form up 6 man in comms every time they want to play the game. More and more often I am just logging to other games now as well after a couple of polarized SC matches, and i love warhammer online more than most.

pretending to have zerg scenarios like RVR is like going to a golf club and pretending to find a strip tease. Scenarios require setup and brain turned on. If someone does not feel like it is free to leave.

Lion1986 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:01 pm

Wyzard wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:40 am Being driven up on the barriers by premades with nowhere to run means you are basically in an octogon in every scenario... yea this won't just drive new players away but old dedicated players as well who do not have the time to form up 6 man in comms every time they want to play the game. More and more often I am just logging to other games now as well after a couple of polarized SC matches, and i love warhammer online more than most.

pretending to have zerg scenarios like RVR is like going to a golf club and pretending to find a strip tease. Scenarios require setup and brain turned on. If someone does not feel like it is free to leave.

And this attitude is exactly why people are leaving ….good luck to you when you are fighting other premade BIS teams only. Because that is where this is heading. Have fun

Paxsanarion wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:27 pm

Lion1986 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:01 pm

Wyzard wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:40 am Being driven up on the barriers by premades with nowhere to run means you are basically in an octogon in every scenario... yea this won't just drive new players away but old dedicated players as well who do not have the time to form up 6 man in comms every time they want to play the game. More and more often I am just logging to other games now as well after a couple of polarized SC matches, and i love warhammer online more than most.

pretending to have zerg scenarios like RVR is like going to a golf club and pretending to find a strip tease. Scenarios require setup and brain turned on. If someone does not feel like it is free to leave.

And this attitude is exactly why people are leaving ….good luck to you when you are fighting other premade BIS teams only. Because that is where this is heading. Have fun

Can't stand the truth?

No matter if you join as solo, as duo or as full grown premade, in a SC the factor of winning or loosing is teamplay. KNOW your job, DO your job no matter what you play. If you don't know what your job is or just don't accept it, your side is playing with one person less. The "free to leave" part is maybe a little bit to harsh, but people just don't play as a team are the biggest problems in sc

Paxsanarion wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:27 pm

Lion1986 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:01 pm

Wyzard wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:40 am Being driven up on the barriers by premades with nowhere to run means you are basically in an octogon in every scenario... yea this won't just drive new players away but old dedicated players as well who do not have the time to form up 6 man in comms every time they want to play the game. More and more often I am just logging to other games now as well after a couple of polarized SC matches, and i love warhammer online more than most.

pretending to have zerg scenarios like RVR is like going to a golf club and pretending to find a strip tease. Scenarios require setup and brain turned on. If someone does not feel like it is free to leave.

And this attitude is exactly why people are leaving ….good luck to you when you are fighting other premade BIS teams only. Because that is where this is heading. Have fun

i met a lot of premade in opposite faction and lost many time. Tried to learn my class better instead of whining on forum. If such attitude players like youirs are leaveing, with all due respect, is not a big loss at all.

Paxsanarion wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:27 pm

Lion1986 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:01 pm

Wyzard wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 11:40 am Being driven up on the barriers by premades with nowhere to run means you are basically in an octogon in every scenario... yea this won't just drive new players away but old dedicated players as well who do not have the time to form up 6 man in comms every time they want to play the game. More and more often I am just logging to other games now as well after a couple of polarized SC matches, and i love warhammer online more than most.

pretending to have zerg scenarios like RVR is like going to a golf club and pretending to find a strip tease. Scenarios require setup and brain turned on. If someone does not feel like it is free to leave.

And this attitude is exactly why people are leaving ….good luck to you when you are fighting other premade BIS teams only. Because that is where this is heading. Have fun

They'll all be forced to play group ranked eventually!

A normal sc without pug is not equal to ranked

Everdin wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:44 pm

Paxsanarion wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:27 pm

Lion1986 wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 12:01 pm

pretending to have zerg scenarios like RVR is like going to a golf club and pretending to find a strip tease. Scenarios require setup and brain turned on. If someone does not feel like it is free to leave.

And this attitude is exactly why people are leaving ….good luck to you when you are fighting other premade BIS teams only. Because that is where this is heading. Have fun

Can't stand the truth?

No matter if you join as solo, as duo or as full grown premade, in a SC the factor of winning or loosing is teamplay. KNOW your job, DO your job no matter what you play. If you don't know what your job is or just don't accept it, your side is playing with one person less. The "free to leave" part is maybe a little bit to harsh, but people just don't play as a team are the biggest problems in sc

I have known the truth for a long time as I have been on and off the server for years and years. The point I’m trying to make is it doesn’t matter how well you know your job and everybody else’s job if you’re trying to gear up you have no chance no matter how well you play in the current environment that’s all. Like I have said before if that’s the vision of the developers for the server that’s perfectly fine and if that’s what everybody wants that’s perfectly fine. I will simply move on and enjoy other games and actually have fun

I started on ror - i dunno 5 or 6 years ago maybe - i remebered scs from live as wild, chaotic amd a lot of fun. So i did some scs - maybe 10 or so - since then ive never done one again in the last 5 years and nothing could induce me to do them now- if its costs me an event reward so be it.

on my +80rr sov geared char its incredibly easy to get a great group going, that wins +90% of scenarios. sadly, its not fun stomping scenarios without a challenge.

if i switch to my new rr43 char its infinitely harder for me to get a strong group going. sadly, its not fun getting stomped in scenarios without a chance.

in both situations its me: the same person with the same in-game contacts, same skill and same mindset, but the results vary enormously.
sure there should be a difference, but should it be that big?
or to ask the right question:
is it fun for you guys having 60-70% games, that are either stomp or get stomped?
dont you prefer a good challenge, in which you dont know the outcome after 1-2mins?

Panel wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2024 2:10 pm I started on ror - i dunno 5 or 6 years ago maybe - i remebered scs from live as wild, chaotic amd a lot of fun. So i did some scs - maybe 10 or so - since then ive never done one again in the last 5 years and nothing could induce me to do them now- if its costs me an event reward so be it.

It just seems to me there has to be a way for people to enjoy scenarios and have fun while at the same time have scenarios that are ultra competitive for those that enjoy that type of game play. Let those that want to compete at the highest level do so and have fun. But also let those who are fresh 40’s and still gearing up compete against each other and have fun rather than being endlessly stomped by BIS premades. Can’t we have both types of scenarios?