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Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 3:17 pm
by Orontes
Scientific wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:53 am Single Target Roaming:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 5,1637,585
Some reasoning behind the choices: People SUPER undervalue Rune of Fortune, it's crazy value in a 1v1 acting as a spammable, heavy hitting lifetap. It hits roughly as hard as Rune of Striking, but heals you for a ton and afaik isn't affected by outgoing HDBs. It's usually ~1800 healing + the lifetap from Efficient Runecarving. Runic Blasting helps your burst and allows you to build higher magic damage bonus and less crit. I usually sit +280 Magic Damage Bonus with Sent Talisman, but to get here you need to sacrifice some crit.

AoE Warband Debuffer [no HDB]:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 8,1640,585
Some reasoning behind the choices: Grimnir's Fury is awful, it's basically as much damage as just spamming Rune of Might. Not to mention you do not have enough points to get it and grab Efficient Runecarving, which is basically mandatory in all specs. However if you want to run HBD, drop ER, but know you'll need to play much safer. Grabbing rune of burning gives you some Single Target Assist, without it you have basically none outside of spamming Rune of Striking.

AoE Warband Debuffer [HDB]:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 0,585,1633
Note: You need to swap gear when running HDB to get as much crit as possible, regardless of what it does to your damage. 7offsov for the anti-crit debuff proc isn't a bad choice here, but understand you'll lose a LOT of Damage Bonus and subsequently damage output. (that should be fine, you're in a wb to debuff anyway)
How would you compare and contrast the DPS RP with the DPS zealot, and (if I may) what builds would you go with for the DPS zealot?

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:53 pm
by Stinksuit
Orontes wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 3:17 pm
Scientific wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:53 am Single Target Roaming:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 5,1637,585
Some reasoning behind the choices: People SUPER undervalue Rune of Fortune, it's crazy value in a 1v1 acting as a spammable, heavy hitting lifetap. It hits roughly as hard as Rune of Striking, but heals you for a ton and afaik isn't affected by outgoing HDBs. It's usually ~1800 healing + the lifetap from Efficient Runecarving. Runic Blasting helps your burst and allows you to build higher magic damage bonus and less crit. I usually sit +280 Magic Damage Bonus with Sent Talisman, but to get here you need to sacrifice some crit.

AoE Warband Debuffer [no HDB]:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 8,1640,585
Some reasoning behind the choices: Grimnir's Fury is awful, it's basically as much damage as just spamming Rune of Might. Not to mention you do not have enough points to get it and grab Efficient Runecarving, which is basically mandatory in all specs. However if you want to run HBD, drop ER, but know you'll need to play much safer. Grabbing rune of burning gives you some Single Target Assist, without it you have basically none outside of spamming Rune of Striking.

AoE Warband Debuffer [HDB]:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 0,585,1633
Note: You need to swap gear when running HDB to get as much crit as possible, regardless of what it does to your damage. 7offsov for the anti-crit debuff proc isn't a bad choice here, but understand you'll lose a LOT of Damage Bonus and subsequently damage output. (that should be fine, you're in a wb to debuff anyway)
How would you compare and contrast the DPS RP with the DPS zealot, and (if I may) what builds would you go with for the DPS zealot?
I've found dot build with mp to be the most efficient way to play this reworked dps zeal.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 32061,8597

Gearwise this is my favourite one (but I play solo mainly so there are sets that give you a bit more dmg. I have bursted 9k+ with this set up though).

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... 528/armory

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:42 pm
by Endari
Stinksuit wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:53 pm
I've found dot build with mp to be the most efficient way to play this reworked dps zeal.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 32061,8597

Gearwise this is my favourite one (but I play solo mainly so there are sets that give you a bit more dmg. I have bursted 9k+ with this set up though).

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... 528/armory
Thanks for the build/gear links, I've been wanted to pick up my baby zeal again but why double BS weapons? They don't stack(+dmg bonus) right?

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:04 am
by Stinksuit
Endari wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:42 pm
Stinksuit wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:53 pm
I've found dot build with mp to be the most efficient way to play this reworked dps zeal.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 32061,8597

Gearwise this is my favourite one (but I play solo mainly so there are sets that give you a bit more dmg. I have bursted 9k+ with this set up though).

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... 528/armory
Thanks for the build/gear links, I've been wanted to pick up my baby zeal again but why double BS weapons? They don't stack(+dmg bonus) right?
I use double bl for the initiative because I started using the int buff instead of wp/ini buff. Also bloodlord weapons have nice amount of mp

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:05 pm
by BluIzLucky
Stinksuit wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:04 am
Endari wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:42 pm
Stinksuit wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:53 pm
I've found dot build with mp to be the most efficient way to play this reworked dps zeal.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 32061,8597

Gearwise this is my favourite one (but I play solo mainly so there are sets that give you a bit more dmg. I have bursted 9k+ with this set up though).

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... 528/armory
Thanks for the build/gear links, I've been wanted to pick up my baby zeal again but why double BS weapons? They don't stack(+dmg bonus) right?
I use double bl for the initiative because I started using the int buff instead of wp/ini buff. Also bloodlord weapons have nice amount of mp
But with the gear you link, you are not softcapped on int? So mp or int/wp doesn't really matter.
So you could exchange one for Suffer (80 int/wp+proc), Evil (heal on hit) or Nihilist's Focus of Anathema (similar stats but +3 morale/s).

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 1:01 am
by Orontes
Stinksuit wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 6:53 pm
Orontes wrote: Sun Jun 08, 2025 3:17 pm
Scientific wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2025 1:53 am Single Target Roaming:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 5,1637,585
Some reasoning behind the choices: People SUPER undervalue Rune of Fortune, it's crazy value in a 1v1 acting as a spammable, heavy hitting lifetap. It hits roughly as hard as Rune of Striking, but heals you for a ton and afaik isn't affected by outgoing HDBs. It's usually ~1800 healing + the lifetap from Efficient Runecarving. Runic Blasting helps your burst and allows you to build higher magic damage bonus and less crit. I usually sit +280 Magic Damage Bonus with Sent Talisman, but to get here you need to sacrifice some crit.

AoE Warband Debuffer [no HDB]:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 8,1640,585
Some reasoning behind the choices: Grimnir's Fury is awful, it's basically as much damage as just spamming Rune of Might. Not to mention you do not have enough points to get it and grab Efficient Runecarving, which is basically mandatory in all specs. However if you want to run HBD, drop ER, but know you'll need to play much safer. Grabbing rune of burning gives you some Single Target Assist, without it you have basically none outside of spamming Rune of Striking.

AoE Warband Debuffer [HDB]:
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 0,585,1633
Note: You need to swap gear when running HDB to get as much crit as possible, regardless of what it does to your damage. 7offsov for the anti-crit debuff proc isn't a bad choice here, but understand you'll lose a LOT of Damage Bonus and subsequently damage output. (that should be fine, you're in a wb to debuff anyway)
How would you compare and contrast the DPS RP with the DPS zealot, and (if I may) what builds would you go with for the DPS zealot?
I've found dot build with mp to be the most efficient way to play this reworked dps zeal.
https://builder.returnofreckoning.com/c ... 32061,8597

Gearwise this is my favourite one (but I play solo mainly so there are sets that give you a bit more dmg. I have bursted 9k+ with this set up though).

https://killboard.returnofreckoning.com ... 528/armory
Thank you for the thoughtful reply

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:11 pm
by Stinksuit
BluIzLucky wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:05 pm
Stinksuit wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:04 am
Endari wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2025 9:42 pm

Thanks for the build/gear links, I've been wanted to pick up my baby zeal again but why double BS weapons? They don't stack(+dmg bonus) right?
I use double bl for the initiative because I started using the int buff instead of wp/ini buff. Also bloodlord weapons have nice amount of mp
But with the gear you link, you are not softcapped on int? So mp or int/wp doesn't really matter.
So you could exchange one for Suffer (80 int/wp+proc), Evil (heal on hit) or Nihilist's Focus of Anathema (similar stats but +3 morale/s).
Just coming from memory but with int buff I do think I am int capped. If I remember correctly its like 1054 int.

Also you do want crit and not just main stat. I dont remember 100% exact numbers from my head but I have like ~1050 int with ~30 something % crit.

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:37 am
by storm
how the heck can you get a 6 sec cast off :P

Re: [RP] DPS gearing questions

Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2025 5:20 am
by Stinksuit
storm wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 12:37 am how the heck can you get a 6 sec cast off :P
6s cast? Are you referring to storm of ravens? If so that ability is a channel :)