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Gargis
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Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#11 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:21 pm

LOL is all I can say.

Shameful. They nerf the armor pen build on WH and WE, but don't account that most builds WE use are WB. Convenient, like we would not notice.

Remind me. Was the Knight MS spec not nerfed into non-existence?

Yet we can have this abomination with all the regen/bubble stacking and magic damage which does not have to scale with strength.

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Sulorie
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Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#12 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:39 pm

At least recognize all the order rdps in melee range. ;^)
Dying is no option.

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Detangler
Posts: 993

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#13 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:36 am

Need more videos like these to show the devs just how bonkers broken certain setups are in this game and adjustments are badly needed.

Too many escape tools on a stealth class and not enough aoe damage to be wanted/stacked in warband play. this is honestly worse than the worst stage of DAoC infliltrator and left axe shadowblades in game balancing stealth classes.

Not a hit at all on the skills of OP. Game recognizes game. But certain mechanics/specs are just not right.
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Omegus
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Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#14 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:14 am

Yes, balance should be dictated by cherry-picked fights used to make a frag montage video...

For the people getting angry at the video, please notice:

1) A lack of order healers in almost every fight
2) RDPS in melee range
3) DPS in glass cannon builds without the tank and healer back-up needed to make them work
4) Sub-40 players

And you can always look up the character on the killboard for the full picture :D
Zomega: RR8x Zealot

reynor007
Posts: 535

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#15 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:35 am

Akalukz wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:58 pm Is this since the new patch?
no, this was filmed about a month ago
rady wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:18 pm Why is this WE harder to kill than my tank? hmmm game design...
it's a balance)
grim78 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:38 pm Nice Watch, good job. Funny to see a dps WE trying to jump into the fray at 14:40ish. That fight illustrates the current solo meta for a destro player.
playing a full DPS build on this server is pain and suffering
WH - mdpv 80+
WE - Witchrage 80+

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zoccolo
Posts: 17

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#16 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:37 am

this
Omegus wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:14 am Yes, balance should be dictated by cherry-picked fights used to make a frag montage video...

For the people getting angry at the video, please notice:

1) A lack of order healers in almost every fight
2) RDPS in melee range
3) DPS in glass cannon builds without the tank and healer back-up needed to make them work
4) Sub-40 players

And you can always look up the character on the killboard for the full picture :D

Mdvp is the best player on the server for several reasons and has been an inspiration to most of us, but to call this video important to review the balance is really crap. The day he makes a 1vs6 against people like Cait then I will consider the regen build broken. 1vs2 would be enough. It seems everyone thinks they are superskilled and that if a really good one kills them then the class he plays is broken. If you don't believe it do one and then post the videos 1vs6 ... or 1v2. until then ... keep complaining
When you die 1vs1 or if two or more get killed by one player it is only because he is better at both playing (hands and eyes) and getting the right build.
In duels against good people Mdvp doesn't take 5 seconds, they play it to the last.
Before being a whining clown we have to understand that there are better players and some even much better. If we lose to people like them it is not the fault of the class.
Same for Wh, make one and run solo (not rats ganking group) and then post videos of your exploits here. In the lakes you see wh and we being clubbed badly if they are solo, is it because of class or skill?

nocturnalguest
Posts: 493

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#17 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:59 am

Great movement, awesome GCD management, astonishing peeling. Cool video!
I wanted to post in your previous thread with video but got carried away with chores - those explanationary lines you did in the previous video were damn amazing. Here in this one you had only one, video before did include more of those plus few somewhat failed fights with explanation of how it turned out to be so. I believe you have nothing left to prove to anyone so those "educational" pieces in your clips would greatly benefit community.

Also great footage vs. AMs

fatelvis
Posts: 49

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#18 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:07 am

Interesting watch. I wonder if you skip FS to procc the absorb tactic more often?
Too bad I didn't meet you more than twice or so pre system change. Felt like my engie build had a good chance against your build. :P (with equal pot investments at least)

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reynor007
Posts: 535

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#19 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:48 am

Dabbart wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:54 pm For those wondering, the video becomes watchable at the 30s mark. That zooming is kinda tough to handle...

Nice vid! Do WEs have a morale pump or was something changed with morale gain? How do you get m2 on CD? You only have 1 piece of gear with +morale.

17:24-18:20 is my favorite part. Nice moves/timing!

for anyone interested in armory Can I ask what your toughness/armor sits at?
thx, I only have the def sov ring, which gives +4 morale
I think something around 800 tough, 2500 armor, I don't remember the exact values
Gargis wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:21 pm LOL is all I can say.

Shameful. They nerf the armor pen build on WH and WE, but don't account that most builds WE use are WB. Convenient, like we would not notice.

Remind me. Was the Knight MS spec not nerfed into non-existence?
I agree, in fact, the developers killed the only class that could somehow fight with def we on equal terms, now no one has a single chance to kill def WE, I am 100% sure of this
Detangler wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:36 am Need more videos like these to show the devs just how bonkers broken certain setups are in this game and adjustments are badly needed.
we all know who does the balance, and we know that this person doesn’t care about solos and for the most part neither does rv
It took more than two years for WH to be nerfed, but we def continues to be as strong for more than 5 years
WH - mdpv 80+
WE - Witchrage 80+

Khailee
Posts: 15

Re: Solo WE vs 6? No problem

Post#20 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:01 am

reynor007 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:48 am
we all know who does the balance, and we know that this person doesn’t care about solos and for the most part neither does rv
It took more than two years for WH to be nerfed, but we def continues to be as strong for more than 5 years

Well they say they don't balance around solo but when I see ORVR its always the same few classes way outperforming everyone else...

Anyways....nice vid as always. slick plays!

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