Return of Reckoning

Morradin wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:18 pm Too many people on this server are anti stealth. They feel that the two weakest and practically useless classes need to be even weaker. It hurts their tiny egos when a stealther can solo kill them. They even cried when there was no Shadow Prowler and stealth it self was just 20 or 30 seconds long.

2/10 good bait because i responded.

WH and WE have 2 most overloaded kit and the changes we got are right direction in making it less overloaded, lets give a stealth class a leap, morale drain, kd, punt and a stealth that lets you wait till you see only one person and you have 100% chance of killing them. It makes it way annoying when someone on Low AP just goes poof because he managed to slow you with their ranged AA (also funny) into elixir that gives them ms and temporary invisibility soo they can run away enough to trigger their normal invisibility.

It turns normal 1v1 fights into, oh im loosing time to dip with leaving no counter play.

Not even talking about deftard regen builds because they are discussion for other topic than the class balance.

Deff felt the nerf to my witch elf had to go back to the boring spec "Witchbrew" talking about dps spec ofc.

lets give stealth to shadow warriors- (name itself shows that class need stealth to shoot arrows ) or change clas name to ranger.
p.s wh and witch are weakest clases hahahahha

anything to make stealth classes worse is a blessing. these two classes bring nothing but grief and for the good health of the game the stealth should be removed completely, outside of the short vanish + sprint Mastery skill. dont @ me

Shorter stealth makes it more boring to play WE/WH but doesn't increase enjoyment for other people other than some psychologial "haha, you got nerfed" -factor (in case you are stealth class hater). WE/WH will spend more time sitting in bushes and waiting and less time roaming in stealth while target of WE/WH has same outcome 99% of the time: stealth class jumps them out of nowhere.


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normanis wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:23 pm lets give stealth to shadow warriors- (name itself shows that class need stealth to shoot arrows ) or change clas name to ranger.

This would be pretty cool idea.

Hugatsaga wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:56 pm

normanis wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:23 pm lets give stealth to shadow warriors- (name itself shows that class need stealth to shoot arrows ) or change clas name to ranger.

This would be pretty cool idea.

Camouflage for SW. Stationary, breaks on movement. 30 sec cd.

Hugatsaga wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:56 pm [..] while target of WE/WH has same outcome 99% of the time: stealth class jumps them out of nowhere.

If wh/we engage on me and they loose the difference between current change and the past changes is that at 30AP they are able to be stealthed only 6s max where before they could do it for 10s, 40% longer. 6s gives me higher chance to pursue them than 10s. ofc this means nothing if he chucks AP potion beforehand but i dont see a lot of wh/we doing this.

bw10 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:14 pm

Hugatsaga wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:56 pm

normanis wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:23 pm lets give stealth to shadow warriors- (name itself shows that class need stealth to shoot arrows ) or change clas name to ranger.

This would be pretty cool idea.

Camouflage for SW. Stationary, breaks on movement. 30 sec cd.

And mirror it on sh destro side. Invisible giant squig landing on order has some inherent extra entertainment value.

Change was for the better. When I played my WE stealth was 30 sec max. Plenty of time to stealth up near a postern, bypass, and beat feet to the oil room to attack it with a few seconds to spare. You have what, 70 seconds max with stealth? drink an AP pot after you pop stealth if you are so afraid of having low AP after attacking someone. There's a reason you get -50% AP costs for 10 seconds after using a stealth opener.

Now give WE/WH better aoe damage/group damage buff potential so they have more WB viability so stealth is a reposition tool and not a solo-lakes-ganker tool and it'll be perfect.

60 sec stealth / 60 second cooldown.