Re: [Poll] Permanent Twillight Tide Crafting
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:40 pm
Pies permanent as well imo! With the OP suggested changes to twilight tide + only allowing 1 of these and with talisman slot
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Not if you don’t run crit builds then 2% crit doesn’t matter .. so can have a discussion.Elemint wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:01 pm2% crit for 25 str is a straight up upgrade, there's no discussion about itScottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:56 amNope. It's got stats that are crucial for some DPS like WS/AP. But 2 piece gen gives more stats and value. It's only bis for specific builds/classes.Elemint wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:09 am
For dps it's a genesis upgrade, making it BIS. Small margin or not is irrelevant, BIS is BIS
While I agree a crafting system should remain. It shouldn't be this or with these rings. Me and my guild put a crapton of effort into equipping ourselves with these. If you nerf them or make them freely grindable it'll just prove to be a waste of time and ppl won't get involved with events like this in future...
Crit is worth roughly 9 of your main stat. Genesis gives like 100 main stat. The new rings equiv is slightly less. And they don't have as many wounds or initiative.Elemint wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:01 pm2% crit for 25 str is a straight up upgrade, there's no discussion about itScottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:56 amNope. It's got stats that are crucial for some DPS like WS/AP. But 2 piece gen gives more stats and value. It's only bis for specific builds/classes.Elemint wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:09 am
For dps it's a genesis upgrade, making it BIS. Small margin or not is irrelevant, BIS is BIS
While I agree a crafting system should remain. It shouldn't be this or with these rings. Me and my guild put a crapton of effort into equipping ourselves with these. If you nerf them or make them freely grindable it'll just prove to be a waste of time and ppl won't get involved with events like this in future...
How effective is crit depends on which tactics a class has working with it (like +50% crit dmg), or what it has going off it (like aa haste, heal debuff, procs, etc). Also, physical dmg classes needs ws more than str, which till those rings was hard to get on jewelry. Then there are also toughness rings, which are bis for several specs for classes which usually have a hard time getting toughness on jewelry.Scottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:38 pmCrit is worth roughly 9 of your main stat. Genesis gives like 100 main stat. The new rings equiv is slightly less. And they don't have as many wounds or initiative.Elemint wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:01 pm2% crit for 25 str is a straight up upgrade, there's no discussion about itScottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:56 am
Nope. It's got stats that are crucial for some DPS like WS/AP. But 2 piece gen gives more stats and value. It's only bis for specific builds/classes.
While I agree a crafting system should remain. It shouldn't be this or with these rings. Me and my guild put a crapton of effort into equipping ourselves with these. If you nerf them or make them freely grindable it'll just prove to be a waste of time and ppl won't get involved with events like this in future...
I'm talking compared to main stat value comparison. For example, for Salv WP. The rings are useless. 2 piece gen heal or toughness is better. For Riflespec Engi. The WS and armpen is BiS by far. My point was it's not BiS for everything. And certainly not all DPS IMO. My view on it is they are best for classes that are stat starved from reaching their "true" potential.Zxul wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:07 pmHow effective is crit depends on which tactics a class has working with it (like +50% crit dmg), or what it has going off it (like aa haste, heal debuff, procs, etc). Also, physical dmg classes needs ws more than str, which till those rings was hard to get on jewelry. Then there are also toughness rings, which are bis for several specs for classes which usually have a hard time getting toughness on jewelry.Scottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:38 pmCrit is worth roughly 9 of your main stat. Genesis gives like 100 main stat. The new rings equiv is slightly less. And they don't have as many wounds or initiative.Elemint wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:01 pm
2% crit for 25 str is a straight up upgrade, there's no discussion about it
Also depends. For example, speaking Salv wp, you can't get from 2 gen a combination of toughness and heal crit, or toughness and -% to be crit.Scottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:28 pmI'm talking compared to main stat value comparison. For example, for Salv WP. The rings are useless. 2 piece gen heal or toughness is better. For Riflespec Engi. The WS and armpen is BiS by far.Zxul wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:07 pmHow effective is crit depends on which tactics a class has working with it (like +50% crit dmg), or what it has going off it (like aa haste, heal debuff, procs, etc). Also, physical dmg classes needs ws more than str, which till those rings was hard to get on jewelry. Then there are also toughness rings, which are bis for several specs for classes which usually have a hard time getting toughness on jewelry.Scottx125 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:38 pm
Crit is worth roughly 9 of your main stat. Genesis gives like 100 main stat. The new rings equiv is slightly less. And they don't have as many wounds or initiative.
Totally agreed. Timed rewards is what stops me from any participation in most of events. And those Black and White custom cloaks... Seriously?shoelessHN wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:16 pm If you have like 20 characters the events are useless anyways since it takes forever to finish on one and the items are usually timed. I started skipping all these big events years ago as a result.