Return of Reckoning

gebajger wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:13 pm The Instructor's Boon which gives a XP reduction has been removed from the game.

Nowadays this is mostly used by veteran players to stay in T2/T3 a very long time at lvl 35-39 and farm lower level players. Some players might think that is fun for them, but it is detrimental to the game itself.

No fun allowed.
Just to clarify, the fun aspect of the scroll wasn't killing lowbies (you got way too much xp for lowbies even with the scroll), but to fight high rr people without lvling up every few kills.

People have been playing premades on t2-t3 for months with the most geared characters. I won’t say that this is a tier, where there are a maximum of newcomers due to its accessibility, who did not know about the existence of this scroll. It is logical that if they survived in t2-t3 sc, they came with ani/merc at t4 in best case. This scroll was in 80-90% for veterans players, which just farmed this newcomers. So, meh. Will give a bit, but still.

Kaelang wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:19 pm Addressing the points above - remember that although the XP reduction item was removed - to tackle the demoralising experience for players outside of the premade, if we find that the item was predominantly used for RR gain (after severe live testing of resulting RR at 40) then there are always options to tweak rates should that be a major concern.

The removal of the item here was to support players within those brackets by limiting the demoralising experience of being farmed by discord premades, regardless of their intentions being either to smash new / returning players, or simply prepare for T4.

Premades will keep farming lowbies, if that's what they really enjoy, sure, they will lvl out of the bracket faster now, but then comes the next premade.

Kaelang wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 1:19 pm Addressing the points above - remember that although the XP reduction item was removed - to tackle the demoralising experience for players outside of the premade, if we find that the item was predominantly used for RR gain (after severe live testing of resulting RR at 40) then there are always options to tweak rates should that be a major concern.

The removal of the item here was to support players within those brackets by limiting the demoralising experience of being farmed by discord premades, regardless of their intentions being either to smash new / returning players, or simply prepare for T4.

Is it not possible to just deactivate its effects when someone joins a scenario and have it still work in RvR or is that to much work to implement?

Also on another note, the Guild Window has been broken for a long time for players without guild is there any chance to get it fixed any time soon (can't see what guilds are recruiting and there's barely anyone recruiting in /5 regularly besides Freebotaz on destro)

How was healer's contribution tweaked? What has changed?

Scrolls was mostly used to stay at bolster and farm rr till 55 atleast in rvr zones not to stay at 35-39. Veterans over 32 very often had enough rr and push to 40.

Without scrolls fresh 40 will be totally useles with gear around anni/conqueror.

It will hardly reduce number of alts

Yep, more fresh meat for the grinder , I'm curious what the next reason for loosing in t2-t3 is. What about removing abilities from low tiers, just big auto-attack battles! I mean, just to make it fair!

about the Instructor's Boon removal:

I do not know where to start:

1- the item is used to get a decent rr to lvl 40.
2- the item is used to farm crest and to hit 40 with a decent set.
3- now the "new" ones, if there are new people, will be farmed by full sov premades at lvl 40.
4- the item should be buffed and freeze the experience altogether so the new player learns to play in an environment where the equipment and level difference can be trimmed in 4 days.
5- The problem with farming is that people refuse to play in premades and I know this first hand because I have tried to build them with pugs in t3 and t4, and it takes me a long time to build them and sometimes I can't even do it.
6- so I don't understand since when is it a problem that they farm you if premades are promoted here in an environment where people don't want to play in premades.
7- the problem of farming in mid tier is not because of the item, it is because the veterans know that it is better to play in premade so they make a premade and they farm you and they also know that it is better to farm up to rr 50 and arrive with a decent set at lvl 40 that's why they use the item on the contrary new people refuse to play premade.
8- now the new ones are going to reach lvl 40 very green and the premades of the usual ones are going to farm them.
9- in all the games there are twinks and if someone wants to be, it is explained how, it is not as if the veterans hid the existence of the item.
10- so is bad to be farmed inmid tier but good to be farmed at lvl 40.

tldr : is a bad change

What about just removing the bonus if you are in a group, would be much better addressed to the problem

should make a 25% renown potion for 16-39 that is extremely cheap.

Glad that you are starting to see the issues that is low/new players vs well equipped pug stompers. Now just expand the PuG scenario to a few more scenarios. Maybe Reikland Hills and Factory. Same old nordenwatch for months is meh.

Great Change again, so much better for veterans/noobs to hit 40 and get annihilated by sov groups, wearing These imba max conq gear. Force us more to play brainless zerging Just to gear up, best Part u Run zerg pick Up some boxes and get more renown/crests than actually to Fight Matches, train Ur Skill etc. Veterans dont use stupid XP Scrolls to Farm new Players, they use it because even with level differences, less abilities etc. fights are still good/winable than t4 SCs against BIS Players when U hit 40 with no Gear. But i understand the Changes, the Patch is exactly for those BIS players to get more fooder, dont even deny it. How about finally make some usefull Patches, Like statboosts in SCs so conq gear and sov have Same amount of stat Points to have fair fights. Seriously balance isnt some witchcraft, SCs statboosts to have eqal standing and fair fights, Open Just like it is to have a Goal to get better Gear. In SCs with more renownpoints higher Players have still an Advantage. Noone of US doing XP Scrolls for fun, they just hate zerging and dont wanna be annihilated in t4 SCs.