Return of Reckoning

I support this idea.

Toshutkidup wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:43 pm Make Rampage lvl 1 ability 30sec uptime 5 sec CD.. what ya all think ?

Only if it doesn't exhausts rage anymore, then it would truly be balanced :v

Toshutkidup wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:43 pm Make Rampage lvl 1 ability 30sec uptime 5 sec CD.. what ya all think ?

yeah, good idea.
As today, the skill is a bit useless.... (only useful against def Tanks with high Parr/block stat - It dont stop the gobi Speed - detaunt / ganking tactics) - In example => The Choppas did more DPS / dmg without Rampage hability than Slayers with....

Or I do 2 another proposals :
- Stay 20 sec (either Furious / berzerk) active with 20 sec CD - but Stop the rage exhausting when we use it or (my prefered one) => Add rampage effect simply on reckless gamble buff (Auto activation as we takes dmg when active)

Dont wake the Lion

the idea of playing order after any kind of slayer nerf makes me wanna barf, they hard carry the whole realm

tazdingo wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 6:08 pm the idea of playing order after any kind of slayer nerf makes me wanna barf, they hard carry the whole realm

yea it will hurt Des to much to nerf it, what would they cry about in region afterwards ? they loose there last excuse to be bad

How about you give Choppa their own Rampage (copy paste it), make it replace the useless heal debuff on Ability #2 selection in Savage Tree Spec?

OR

Remove Come and Git It (it's garbage. 200-300 toughness is a joke. No one uses it seriously outside of PVE, like it even makes a difference to begin with), replace it with Rampage, make it standard for Slayers as well, give them a useful ability in exchange for taking it off the tree.

Then everyone is happy, and the killing can continue in earnest.

WaaaghBoy88 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 5:28 am How about you give Choppa their own Rampage (copy paste it)

We are discussing serious changes here

WaaaghBoy88 wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 5:28 am How about you give Choppa their own Rampage (copy paste it), make it replace the useless heal debuff on Ability #2 selection in Savage Tree Spec?

OR

Remove Come and Git It (it's garbage. 200-300 toughness is a joke. No one uses it seriously outside of PVE, like it even makes a difference to begin with), replace it with Rampage, make it standard for Slayers as well, give them a useful ability in exchange for taking it off the tree.

Then everyone is happy, and the killing can continue in earnest.

The overall class balance/comparison issue is; Actually today, only the Slayer and the IronBreaker can be considered equivalent or slightly superior to their Mirror class on the order side (even if I reiterate that many Choppa deal more dmg without rampage than most slayers with rampage ) ....
On 12 classes that's not a much advantage for the Order.

If this "rampage" topic fascinates so much the destru side => it is the perfect reflect the main and only little advantage we have over the destro.

So to answer "WaaaghBoy88" - If rampage is given to the Choppas - personally I say "OK on 2 conditions"
1° replace the "Fierce Might" tactic with "Yet gettin Soft"
And especially
1° remove Git to da Choppa AoE Pull (Or gave it to Slayer's Retribution with same AoE area and bugs ....)
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In the end as you said=> we will have 2 real mirrors....

And finally a BIG advantage for the destro who will have 10 other Classes superior to the order and therefore it will increase the imbalance of the destro zerg; experienced since several months...

Or we ask to the dev an almost full mirror between each class (so no jealousy and whine argue at all !...)

Tyrvald wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 1:32 pm
Or we ask to the dev an almost full mirror between each class (so no jealousy and whine argue at all !...)

You assume people quit whining if all classes are mirrored? Then the crowd only loses one argument but their supply is endless. Premades, lag, addons, cheats ... you name it.