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devilx2022
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#11 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 12:35 am

oh man this attitude is so sad, but tell me how do you did manage it to start this game full BIS ? did the playerbase tell u the same when u play first time this game ?

this game and the forum is filled with so much arrogance.....
not sure if that was the plan when ror was created, But times change and unfortunately people do too.

the coming weeks will show what is to come. but maybe u get ur own little world for u and ppl like u...

thumbs up! some ppl need it so much more than other ;-)

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Strakar
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#12 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:08 am

Actually really like the patch, agree with the OP on all points though. Would like a few weeks of data to make additional changes though. Tenured players came out ok converting all their low tier medals, sub 40 players got the shaft.

1. Genesis costs are probably the most far off, even with bad RNG you would get the pieces you want long before you would now, and the opportunity cost is higher now in foregone crests because armor doesn't drop in gold bags.

2. RvR gear prereq even post changes hurts. Most people skip conqueror level gear completely from sc or rvr so mixing doesn't help, it's just a currency sink. Not sure I understand the rationale either. Wards make sense in pve or no one would play GB but there's no downside to players saving crests for vanq. There's also an opportunity cost if you go pve sets here as the time spent doing that you could be grinding rvr for crests you need for unlocks.

3. I agree with lowering costs pre vanq especially if #2 doesn't change. Although not a fan I think pve unlock ie. Redeye in lieu of conqueror, beastlord for anni and VW for vanq would be an ok substitute for unlock.

4. I'd add it seems like sc crest accumulation took a hit without the repeatable quests. Either add maybe +5 for a sc win along with the current 6 crests or make war crests a reward for each tier in weekend warfront like it is for weekly rvr.

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Gilfo1924
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#13 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:14 am

I don't know if I got lucky or not today but I only played for like 4 hours and I got around 120 marks. I think it's faster than what it was before and I've been playing since around 2015. I feel like it's better.

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warlover
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#14 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:31 am

Put gear back in the bags, cant''t make Tali's at this cost, also rr boost potions only for guild crest/guild members not fair at all anyone should be able to buy them!!!

shoelessHN
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#15 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:54 am

The weapons are the things that are way too high. A flat bonus war medal reward for hitting rr10/20/30/40 would probably fix most of the gear cost issues.

On an alt I got 200 war emblems as a twitch drop and it basically solved the gear gap immediately (t4). But the weapons are out of reach (lvl34 costing 300 is laughable).

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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#16 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:19 am

Several streamers are already trying to test how long it will take to go from lvl 1-40 without “twinking” assistance from mains. The patch is new, the concept is new. The prior way of doing things was many many years old and people complained endlessly about it saying it took too long. How about we play, see how it plays out after a bit, let some testing happen, maybe some tweaks by the devs. Who knows maybe it is or will be exactly what people wanted.
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wonshot
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#17 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:45 am

Pros from what ive seen so far:
Players can get gearsets for their desired spec, for doing the activity they want to play. Example healers can get healing sets from spamming scenarios.
Players can do whatever activity they want and progress, instead of the old system where scenarios didnt make sense after you got your offhand weapon and no longer need those tokens.
Players defeating high rank players and earning token drops, but unable to use them for the next long while can now use them instantly. (rr 40 players getting invaders but couldnt use them yet)

Cons:
Players used to be able to get one or several goldbags and bypass some of the expensive token grind fairly easily to get into entry-level 40 gear, like getting a Vanq Chest/shoulders/helmet and be able to compete with high rank players, this is no longer the case as players need to grind gear set other players were bypassing (conq) and now need to spend more time on the bottom of the top-dog bracket in t4.
Players can use the Weekly orvr tasks to progress, but these are still not overly Casual friendly with gated Fortress victories being gated in a new meta where forts fill up not allowing for casual players to get the 3rd pip and catch up.

Suggestions:
Lower the cost and requirements of T1 - Conq sets.
Reduce the Weekly orvr task to be 1 fortress victory, or 3 participations.
Maybe reintroduce goldbag pieces on lower gear sets from orvr uptill conq to help give new players or chars more of a foothold into T4 since kill-crests are based on killparticipation players need to have a certain entrylevel of power to compete for crests.
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Kloaner
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#18 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:09 am

the worst price tag, are the 500 Wartoken for a Master Ampoule :D

remove the requirements of having "Decimator Set" & "Obliterator Set" or allow People to fufil that requirement with getting the "Keeper Set". That Set was always a great start into T2+.

Give us please more Options do recieve Genesis Crest. Right now I can't play what I want to gear up.
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Sulorie
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#19 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:27 am

Strakar wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 1:08 am

1. Genesis costs are probably the most far off, even with bad RNG you would get the pieces you want long before you would now, and the opportunity cost is higher now in foregone crests because armor doesn't drop in gold bags.

Before the patch it was told, that gold bags won't reward gear but a good amount of crests to almost purchase an armor piece. I guess this was dumped for some reason?
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rejndjer
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Re: Criticism About Currency Change

Post#20 » Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:28 am

dude as a healer you at least get contribution. my WP is ez pz to gear and level up because i ALWAYS have super-high contribution even though i'm not doing anything special. with my SW it's RIP.

P.S. after doing my own testing i've found that gain from scenarios outweigh gains from rvr since patch by a LOOOOOOOOOOOT.

there are 2 ways to amend this: 1. reduce gains from scenarios 2. increase gains from rvr. i wonder what devs will do :)

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