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Re: Gromril Crossing and other "race to the flag" scenarios
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 10:36 pm
by GamesBond
Meliannia wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 8:46 pm
Gromgrill crossing race to centre from start, Order run to centre was THREE SECONDS closer than destro
destro legitimately complained
Gms/Dev SORTED IT IT ASAP within1 WEEKS patched it, now it equal,
fair for both
Phoenix gate race to centre with flag from enemy base, Destro are THIRTEEN SECONDS closer
Order have legitimately complained 4 times now in THREE YEARS and bug reported it TWICE
no action taken by gms/devs
advantage to destro for 3 years, id estimate over 2000 scens have been won by destro because of this unfairness, scens they should never have won
even Chinesehero noticed this three years ago and posted about it,
no action taken
Still waiting and hoping for some equality
We are also looking into this one, its case is different since we cannot change the terrain. Moving a flag in Gromril left or right is easy, however moving the flags in Phoenix's case is harder.
We'll adjust it in the most optimal way dont worry.
Re: Gromril Crossing and other "race to the flag" scenarios
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:14 pm
by space44
Skullgrin wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 5:57 pm
dalen wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 9:55 am
So, out of curiosity I timed it. Took me 29.6s to get to flag as destro and 27.0s to get to flag as order. So Order route was indeed 2.6s faster. Not enough to cap the flag by any means, but still a small headstart.
But I guess we could move the flag slightly towards destro spawn, doesn't look like it is centered on the bridge anyway.
The thing is, what route did you take from the destro camp? Did you go over the cliff or did you go thru the tunnel? Because the tunnel is faster, and my experience in playing this from destro side is that most people don't take the tunnel...
he took the common path that you and the majority of the players would have took the moment the scenario starts
Re: Gromril Crossing and other "race to the flag" scenarios
Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 11:37 pm
by Skullgrin
space44 wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 11:14 pm
he took the common path that you and the majority of the players would have took the moment the scenario starts
Well, on my Chosen I normally take the tunnel and most others take the cliff. I usually get to the bridge a couple of seconds before everyone else. If he took the cliff route (and he doesn't say if he did or not), then the distance would work out to be equal for both sides if destro takes the tunnel - which would make destro not getting to the flag a PEBKAC problem, rather than a balance problem...
Re: Gromril Crossing and other "race to the flag" scenarios
Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 7:02 pm
by Jazlizard
Detangler wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 2:46 pm
nebelwerfer wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 11:32 am
id rather have a minute where you cannot interact with the flag, easier solution cuz it'll be applicable to every sc like this
also helps the people who are slow to join sc take part in the first fight as the fight isnt forced because of capturing.. Might produce better sc's overall
+1. Too many scenarios are decided in the first minute, and if you happen to have a few late joiners you're going to be down half the score by the time they join and you eventually fight back and gain the upper hand.
I think this is a good idea even if the flags get fixed
Re: Gromril Crossing and other "race to the flag" scenarios
Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 8:58 pm
by Martok
Skullgrin wrote: Wed May 26, 2021 11:37 pmWell, on my Chosen I normally take the tunnel and most others take the cliff. I usually get to the bridge a couple of seconds before everyone else.
Thargrimm is correct, the path taken from the spawn point is an important consideration in how quickly one can reach the central flag. From the Order point of view that consideration is discussed here:
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