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Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:59 pm
by Krima
komar9111 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:37 pm
Krima wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:45 pm
dalen wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 12:37 pm
Any screenshots or video showing that?
I've heard lots of conflicting reports on damage multipliers and proc damage.
Yes, sure:
Click here to watch on YouTube Thats me 11 years ago lol.
Sec 0.23 of the video.. I had taste of blood up + flanking Witchbrew hits the white lion for 471, without flanking hiting for 421 ....Im using WSCT, witchbrew damages says only (w) on the side of the dmg.. quality its bad but you can see, use 720P...
421 + 15% = 471
Now from taransula blog:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100407024 ... blic_html/
Also tactic Masterfull Treachery did increase dmg of withbrew. At least for me TOB = MT. Do the same thing: + 15% dmg of all attacks.
I dont see any reason why a 11 pt finisher skill cant synergies with the tactics.
hmm, only ror base dmg WB 330 and has tactics + 25% damage to finishers, WB 460 + 55% dmg rly ??? you really understand the balance of the game
How do you came up with those numbers?
Base dmg 300 + 15% flanking + 15%tob +25%FM = 465 ..before mitigation.
Resist in this game are very high,, so dont expect to see big numbers.Even if they fix WB working with TOB / Flanking.. expect to see witchbrew hiting for 300 to 400 only.
Witchbrew should work with Flanking/TOB thats how it was on live.
Stuff like jaddged edge which is a proc works with slayer/choppa mech + flanking.
Hiting for 300s!!!! Why not 11 pt finisher of a WE, that needs 6 GCD to set it up cant benefit from tactics?
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:33 pm
by vanbuinen77
Thought jagged edge was fixed for choppa/slayer in regards to their mechanic affecting it, as well as buffing oil damage a while ago?
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:42 pm
by komar9111
Krima wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:59 pm
komar9111 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:37 pm
Krima wrote: Fri May 21, 2021 1:45 pm
Yes, sure:
Click here to watch on YouTube Thats me 11 years ago lol.
Sec 0.23 of the video.. I had taste of blood up + flanking Witchbrew hits the white lion for 471, without flanking hiting for 421 ....Im using WSCT, witchbrew damages says only (w) on the side of the dmg.. quality its bad but you can see, use 720P...
421 + 15% = 471
Now from taransula blog:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100407024 ... blic_html/
Also tactic Masterfull Treachery did increase dmg of withbrew. At least for me TOB = MT. Do the same thing: + 15% dmg of all attacks.
I dont see any reason why a 11 pt finisher skill cant synergies with the tactics.
hmm, only ror base dmg WB 330 and has tactics + 25% damage to finishers, WB 460 + 55% dmg rly ??? you really understand the balance of the game
How do you came up with those numbers?
Base dmg 300 + 15% flanking + 15%tob +25%FM = 465 ..before mitigation.
Resist in this game are very high,, so dont expect to see big numbers.Even if they fix WB working with TOB / Flanking.. expect to see witchbrew hiting for 300 to 400 only.
Witchbrew should work with Flanking/TOB thats how it was on live.
Stuff like jaddged edge which is a proc works with slayer/choppa mech + flanking.
Hiting for 300s!!!! Why not 11 pt finisher of a WE, that needs 6 GCD to set it up cant benefit from tactics?
Click here to watch on YouTube
420 after mitigation, and this is before the WB gain, and you might not know, but each point invested in the branch increases the damage by 3%, and even if the WB base damage is 300, 417 damage without a single increase
8:10 526 dmg in slayer
I hope this will be enough for you to understand how wrong you are
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
by Eisboleas
After 250+ ranked SC I can assure you that with max tree + FM WB doesnt hit more than 300-350 so idk what are you talking about

Lets just leave Dalen do his things ^^
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:03 pm
by Eisboleas
Eisboleas wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
After 250+ ranked SC I can assure you that with max tree + FM WB doesnt hit more than 300-350 so idk what are you talking about

Lets just leave Dalen do his things ^^
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:04 pm
by Eisboleas
oops
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 pm
by komar9111
Eisboleas wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
After 250+ ranked SC I can assure you that with max tree + FM WB doesnt hit more than 300-350 so idk what are you talking about

Lets just leave Dalen do his things ^^
that is, you refuse to believe what you see?))
I have provided proof of 400-500 dmg
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:13 pm
by Krima
komar9111 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 pm
Eisboleas wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
After 250+ ranked SC I can assure you that with max tree + FM WB doesnt hit more than 300-350 so idk what are you talking about

Lets just leave Dalen do his things ^^
that is, you refuse to believe what you see?))
I have provided proof of 400-500 dmg
Your video is old m8!!
Witchbrew has beeen nerfed since then. It does not hit for 400-500 PLS!!!
Go to ranked and hit high lvl targets.. Witchbrew does little dmg.. All the WE knows that.
Patch Notes 02/09/2020
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40764&hilit=witchbrew
[Witch Elf]
- Witchbrew: Adjusted stat contribution on 5 Frenzy version of the ability to be in line with the other versions (Was 1.5, now 0.01).
Also.. Brute force and IP is kinda core. Ideal setup here is BF / IP / Flanking/ TOB. Very far away from being OP.
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 6:37 pm
by Eisboleas
Exactly as Krima said ^^
Re: [Witch Elf] - Bugs/Fixes/Changes
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 1:43 am
by Krima
komar9111 wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 6:06 pm
Eisboleas wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:57 pm
After 250+ ranked SC I can assure you that with max tree + FM WB doesnt hit more than 300-350 so idk what are you talking about

Lets just leave Dalen do his things ^^
that is, you refuse to believe what you see?))
I have provided proof of 400-500 dmg
Lets be real!! your video is 2019. Thats pretty long ago.
You stomping lowbies / undergeared targets on your videos

congrats!! que up ranked ! lets see how u do and If can you pull up the same numbers? I doubt!
BACK TO REALITY now:
A Full SOV white lion..
297 Witchbrew
vs
372 (Witchbrew + FM (25%) )
So lets say, they fix witchbrew to scale with TOB + FLANKING
297 + 15% TOB + 15% flanking = 392 DMG ! Very very far from being op!!!