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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:47 am
by Drendon
Hmm this is wierd, something just not right here, i tought i was einstein while eating my fruitsallat and coming up with brilliant math.. now in just sad and confused
something they might nees to look into
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Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:10 pm
by Tesq
wep skill increase/decrease could be hard to spot cos
if you ingore a 20% armor from wep skill and opponen'ts have 20% armor this do not make = 0% armor
it's the 20% of that 20% so:
it's 20 : 100 x 20= 4% ---> 20% -4% = 16% damage reduction from armor.
I can offer my tank to test if you want i have 67-69% damage reduction from armor, with great number the % reduction should be easier to spot if it work.
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:31 pm
by xyeppp
Tesq wrote:wep skill increase/decrease could be hard to spot cos
if you ingore a 20% armor from wep skill and opponen'ts have 20% armor this do not make = 0% armor
it's the 20% of that 20% so:
it's 20 : 100 x 20= 4% ---> 20% -4% = 16% damage reduction from armor.
I can offer my tank to test if you want i have 67-69% damage reduction from armor, with great number the % reduction should be easier to spot if it work.
The 3592 from my test comes from hitting a black orc.
I'm not expecting crazy numbers but my damage stays at exactly the same whether I have 10 WS on, or 60 WS on. Literally, the same. Does not change by 1.
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:42 pm
by Tesq
this is clear so combat formula need to be check
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:03 pm
by mvazquez99
Good to know and thanks for the tests, Xyeppp. If WS is indeed not working, then that's a contributing factor to what some are seeing in scenarios: fewer deaths, lower number of kills - in part because armor is not being penetrated. Gives magic damage an edge...
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:54 pm
by Telen
mvazquez99 wrote:Good to know and thanks for the tests, Xyeppp. If WS is indeed not working, then that's a contributing factor to what some are seeing in scenarios: fewer deaths, lower number of kills - in part because armor is not being penetrated. Gives magic damage an edge...
Also dps with armor bypass have a big advantage and classes with higher armor only need to think about magic.
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:44 pm
by Telen
Lets be honest though currently much of the balance is absolutely nothing like on live. WS is the least of it.
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:55 pm
by xyeppp
Telen wrote:Lets be honest though currently much of the balance is absolutely nothing like on live. WS is the least of it.
What does this thread have to do with balance? I don't know where did you guys pin this all on here, but all I'm reporting is a stat that seems to not be calculated well - it looks a little broken and affects both sides.
This has nothing to do with balance, or people getting less kills, or tanks worrying about magic only.
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:57 pm
by Azarael
Wrong value used in function for dealing ability damage.
Re: Does weapon skill armor penetration work?
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 3:06 pm
by xyeppp
Azarael wrote:Wrong value used in function for dealing ability damage.
Awesome.
Thanks for looking into it man, even while on your break.