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Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:30 pm
by Banjomissen
A ranged KD seems fair - esp. in the light of Destro having suffered Orders 2 ranged KD for 12 years.

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:04 pm
by MMXX43
Banjomissen wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:30 pm A ranged KD seems fair - esp. in the light of Destro having suffered Orders 2 ranged KD for 12 years.
Mara aoe kd .

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:07 pm
by wargrimnir
Oh boy, another big brain thread.

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:09 pm
by Sofong
MMXX43 wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:04 pm
Banjomissen wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:30 pm A ranged KD seems fair - esp. in the light of Destro having suffered Orders 2 ranged KD for 12 years.
Mara aoe kd .
i'll gladly trade mara aoe kd to a st kd in sav or brut tree, instead of in the aoe tree that no st mara spec for.

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:35 pm
by Rumpel
ToXoS wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:18 am Or, better idea:

Get rid of the ICD of kisses, and make WE finishers 5ft and not ranged because it doesn't make any sense (daggers), unlike WHs who use a pistol for that.

A decent actual finisher would be appreciated also.
Maybe change Heart-Render Toxin to be a strong Corporeal DoT (not BaL strong and no burst at the end of the DoT), since it is on the mastery tree focused on poisons, and poison-based abilities in the game deal Corporeal damage.
Get rid of its wounds debuff component, since it is weak and a wounds debuff on a finisher doesn't make sense, they are used in the beginning of a fight to soften a target and make it easier to kill, not at the end.
Sounds interesting, especially Heart Render. Sad their is no real use for it until now.

Tweaking pounce would be amazing.

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:47 pm
by bossabe
Been following this project since the beginning , lol , every 6 months , there is a POST exactly like this , looooool... Make WE great again .

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:50 pm
by Gurf
Rumpel wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:35 pm
ToXoS wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:18 am Or, better idea:

Get rid of the ICD of kisses, and make WE finishers 5ft and not ranged because it doesn't make any sense (daggers), unlike WHs who use a pistol for that.

A decent actual finisher would be appreciated also.
Maybe change Heart-Render Toxin to be a strong Corporeal DoT (not BaL strong and no burst at the end of the DoT), since it is on the mastery tree focused on poisons, and poison-based abilities in the game deal Corporeal damage.
Get rid of its wounds debuff component, since it is weak and a wounds debuff on a finisher doesn't make sense, they are used in the beginning of a fight to soften a target and make it easier to kill, not at the end.
Sounds interesting, especially Heart Render. Sad their is no real use for it until now.

Tweaking pounce would be amazing.

The OP says they need more WB play and people fill the thread with extra requests for single target damage and better pounce :lol: The last thing WE needs is extra burst damage, it already has best in game.

Warbands still need single target groups so there is space for small amount of WE, I think the Dev's gave WH some more warband utility and WE single target (pounce) with last patch because the Destro melee train is already super strong and strengthening that even further by giving WE some aoe is just going to make things worse

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:56 pm
by oaliaen
Twohandernoob wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:36 pm Should give WE Pit of Witchbrew and WH Reign of Burn Away Lies, ranged aoe channeled moves.
Maybe Ranged Aoe for WEs and Meele Aoe to WHs...cause order dont need more ranged abilities.

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:14 pm
by Synora
WE have the highest single target burst in the game and that's fine because of their role as stealth assassin. You can't have both top tier damage and group utility. Your group utility is assassinating - not stand in the middle of the melee ball with everyone else and spam aoe skills

Re: Witch Elf need some Love

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:25 pm
by soldude
ToXoS wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:18 am Tweaking pounce would be amazing.
yes pls. :!: