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Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:41 pm
by kmark101
Starx wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:26 am
kmark101 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:05 am Who used vigilance as 2h anyway... stop being nonsense, if you went up that high in mid tree with 2h you either trolled your realm mates or was really stupid or very very low level and clueless - or all of the above.
Why nerf it then? :^)
Because every single knight nerf is a collateral of some well deserved chosen nerf. Problem is chosen started from the top a sky scraper while knight started from the top of a bungalow.

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:00 am
by xanderous
Sounds like a learn to play issue to me.

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:11 am
by Atropik
Should been done 10 years ago.

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:18 pm
by forsa
Atropik wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:11 am Should been done 10 years ago.
Dont you know that WE and CH can shatter it?
definitely l2p issue

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:42 pm
by orillah
Someone in dev team is seriously hating knights.

Not a single buff/qol change from 2016 when i joined this server.

One can wonder if all of this is a punishment, because they choose not to implement original auras mechanic and therefore forever labeled knights "op"...

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:05 pm
by Atropik
forsa wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:18 pm Dont you know that WE and CH can shatter it?
definitely l2p issue
I know that regular 2h kotbs used to have at least 2 core blessing abilities he can sacrifice to cover the Vigilance with.
Moreover, for some mysterious reason here in RoR - Sewer Blessing can be parried/blocked, what makes cleansing Vigilance hardly doable unless the kotbs player is new to the game, blind or stupid xd

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:07 am
by sharpblader
sharpblader wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:42 am
Fey wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 4:44 am
If this rather minor (imo) change is so onerous to players who main knight I'm predicting a historic gnashing of teeth when the aura changes come.
I would personally love the aura changes because Knights will have their class identity back. Hopefully similar to live's "Aura Shift" prompting a more skill based gameplay.

Coming back to the topic it would seem that the developers are thinking similarly:
Secrets wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:43 pm
Vigilance shield change is likely being reverted soon. Oppression may stick, but we'll discuss further. There's some good arguments in this thread against Vigilance requiring a shield.

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:42 pm
by Zadorck
50% less dmg as 2h is way too overpowered.
The numbers of reply just show how ppls does not give interest to change a great rework

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:23 pm
by lyncher12
kmark101 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:41 pm
Starx wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:26 am
kmark101 wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:05 am Who used vigilance as 2h anyway... stop being nonsense, if you went up that high in mid tree with 2h you either trolled your realm mates or was really stupid or very very low level and clueless - or all of the above.
Why nerf it then? :^)
Because every single knight nerf is a collateral of some well deserved chosen nerf. Problem is chosen started from the top a sky scraper while knight started from the top of a bungalow.
because the masses were lining up crying on the forum about how op oppression is. oh wait they weren't.

Re: [KOTBS] Vigilance Requiring Shield

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:33 pm
by Battlefield
Vigilance only able to use with shield ? Sorry but this is really bullshit that you can kill 2h Kotbs finally !