Return of Reckoning

Arcrival wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:49 pm and all WH/WE get increase to base crit and melee power or offensive stats. Yeah blow me up!

Very much no.

My WE already does as much single target dmg as my magus, except that while magus needs to build 8 stacks and all dots on target to do dmg, my WE pops out of stealth and starts bursting, and unlike magus also comes with 75% heal debuff and on demand KD. Adding any significant dmg to WE/wh will just result in autowin for WE/wh in any kind of 1v1 situation, which isn't healthy for the game in any way.

What WE/wh needs is ability to do dmg in rvr situations, since currently I play WE and I will be the first to admit that me joining a wb is mostly just leeching.

@Manatiktik : now you have to give us the three Manatiktik-approved roles (not specs please, don't tell me you were talking about the mastery trees).

WE/WH not being an aoe spammer is a good thing, but most classes were pushed that way, and now aoe is everywhere :

- increased number of target to 24 players for most aoe
- BW-Sorc and SL-Choppa have always been meta on aoe
- WL and Marauder had improved aoe specs
- mSH, skirmish SW if not meta fits in pretty well
- engie, magus are aoe machines even if not considered ''meta'' they are good.

aoe is everywhere and the only answer given to aoe is .... do more aoe than the other or at least aoe-support.
WH and WE should not jalous this but have their own way.

My 2 cents => I already made a proposal in an other discussion : give them some kind of aoe resistance (just an idea, I just hope it could inspire a better idea from devs).

It would not increase their power but just give them a chance to do their job (''ST assassin'' ? ''Flanking skirmishers'' ? ''Postern watchers or Oil destroyer ?''). Enemys would have to stop aoeing for a moment, focus the squishie asssassin and get back to the aoe fest. Right now, just keep on aoe is just enough, you might even kill some WE/WH you did not see.

Not requiring a target is silly. Not building executions with it is silly.

Potentially increase the targets hit to 4 and leave all else as it is.

In city WH have a purpose now. Rez block. I dont top damage charts or Kbs. I did pretty well though and now I bring enough added benefit the WB to justify the spot. Aoe morale drain/pump. decent single target damage and aoe. rez block on a shammy then a DoK keeping em both down at the same time...... whoo baby!

Shift the meta from aoe to some aoe with good single target and utility that no one else brings..

Profit.

Make it not require a target and hit 4 people max. Builds one accusation if at least one player was hit.

Blind aoe sucks in rvr but its the only thing needed dps wise. You guys randomly gave a great aoe spec to WLs why cant you give a shitty one to WHs too.

MedV wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:36 pm Make it not require a target and hit 4 people max. Builds one accusation if at least one player was hit.

Blind aoe sucks in rvr but its the only thing needed dps wise. You guys randomly gave a great aoe spec to WLs why cant you give a shitty one to WHs too.

This is baffling to me as well, why some dps classes can get both aoe and single target builds and change it via respec when they want (hell MSH can just swap tactics to switch between aoe/st when necessary) but other classes should be ST only ?

Duukar wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:27 pm Not requiring a target is silly. Not building executions with it is silly.

Potentially increase the targets hit to 4 and leave all else as it is.

In city WH have a purpose now. Rez block. I dont top damage charts or Kbs. I did pretty well though and now I bring enough added benefit the WB to justify the spot. Aoe morale drain/pump. decent single target damage and aoe. rez block on a shammy then a DoK keeping em both down at the same time...... whoo baby!

Shift the meta from aoe to some aoe with good single target and utility that no one else brings..

Profit.

And the wb will still benefit more from bringing another slayer or wl.

Not to mention, cities are a tiny part of the game, most of it are mass rvr fights. Mind telling me, what is the purpose of your wh in any mass fight, in keep attack or def, or for that matter in fort fight? Cause you sure won't kill any healer in the backlines there, unless the entire zerg is afk for some reason.