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Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:46 pm
by dalen
Glorian wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:41 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm ...
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- Player kill credit for quests, tome unlocks and live event tasks is only granted to the group members of the one that did the most damage (the one that gets the loot). Previously anyone that did any damage at all got kill credit. Renown and XP works the same way as before.

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So no kill credits for Tanks and Healers anymore?
If you are in a group you should still get kill credit for kills that your group is doing. Basically if your group got the loot from the kill (medallions etc), you get credit for the kill.

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:58 pm
by phononHYPE
This ^ will be interesting, very interesting. BW, Engi, or any aoe'er will be happy of course. Now if my choppa could just, make it, into, combat.

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:04 pm
by Xergon
Glorian wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:41 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm ...
[RvR]

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- Player kill credit for quests, tome unlocks and live event tasks is only granted to the group members of the one that did the most damage (the one that gets the loot). Previously anyone that did any damage at all got kill credit. Renown and XP works the same way as before.

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So no kill credits for Tanks and Healers anymore?
No, it goes to group that DPS did most dmg (got loot from killblow) not to ALL other groups that did participate in dmg contest (even if their DPS did literally 1 dmg).

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:05 pm
by Akalukz
Big nerf to solo players on kill credits. May want to look at reducing death penalty costs. As that was usually the trade-off.

Can you explain the renown for level difference a bit better?

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:13 pm
by Lokiusus
I'll admit it, I'm actually illiterate.
Spoiler:
quote=Akalukz post_id=433080 time=1597845932 user_id=2166]
Big nerf to solo players on kill credits.
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I think this is a really important side effect. Unless I'm misunderstanding how the system now works - it's no longer really worth assisting other faction members when roaming as a solo/small man (especially if they innately outnumber you).

As a solo you basically need to be 1vX-ing or your chances of getting more damage than any two man party and up (and thus kill credit) is low.

As if the solo/small man scene needed more of a nerf.

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:17 pm
by agemennon675
So if you are playing as a tank or healer in an organised warband that is not full, and believe me they are usually not full since they look for certain level/class/gear etc. And happen to be in the empty party as a healer or tank even tho you heal other warband parties and use challange etc. You wont get kill credits ? This doesnt sound good at all.
Ediy: By “group” dou you guys mean entire warband or just the party you are in ?

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:19 pm
by Elemint
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm - Player kill credit for quests, tome unlocks and live event tasks is only granted to the group members of the one that did the most damage (the one that gets the loot). Previously anyone that did any damage at all got kill credit. Renown and XP works the same way as before.
What's the big nerf here? The warcamp quests won't be able to be turned in every time you stop by now?

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:33 pm
by tefnaht
Elemint wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:19 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm - Player kill credit for quests, tome unlocks and live event tasks is only granted to the group members of the one that did the most damage (the one that gets the loot). Previously anyone that did any damage at all got kill credit. Renown and XP works the same way as before.
What's the big nerf here? The warcamp quests won't be able to be turned in every time you stop by now?
Is contribution in oRvR affected by this changes?

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:43 pm
by Cobra81
dalen wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:46 pm
Glorian wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:41 pm
ReturnOfReckoning wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm ...
[RvR]

...

- Player kill credit for quests, tome unlocks and live event tasks is only granted to the group members of the one that did the most damage (the one that gets the loot). Previously anyone that did any damage at all got kill credit. Renown and XP works the same way as before.

...
So no kill credits for Tanks and Healers anymore?
If you are in a group you should still get kill credit for kills that your group is doing. Basically if your group got the loot from the kill (medallions etc), you get credit for the kill.

Ok example:
I am in a group and waiting for my members. Then I see a realm mate in need and I heal him, means that i dont receive anyhting? Good, then i can stay AFK and watching realm members die.
Also, when only group counts then wb cross-healing isnt worth the effort, I mean I heal my competitors, why should I do that? :lol:

And what is with solo players? If they have a 1v1 and has already done 45% dmg, then 5 realm mates adding and doing 55% of the dmg, ends up in nothing for the solo player?

Re: Patch Notes 19/08/2020

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:50 pm
by Acidic
- Player kill credit for quests, tome unlocks and live event tasks is only granted to the group members of the one that did the most damage (the one that gets the loot). Previously anyone that did any damage at all got kill credit. Renown and XP works the same way as before.

Not sure why this change but guess it will discourage blobbing and following organized warbands