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Gorwe
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#11 » Sat May 23, 2015 12:20 pm

Funny.

If you cut out T4 nobody would notice. It is a big zerg-o-rama anyhow without any rhyme and reason. T1-T3 = the best!

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Tesq
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#12 » Sat May 23, 2015 12:30 pm

OUT:
Nastylicious wrote:i heard one time that the devs said they will bring back warhammer exactly how we left it or was that all a LIE ?
It depend which war you want, rr 80 o rr100? there are 2 different war and even 2 different renow system. For what we know the old renow system is lost as they said they dont have the data :(
Also they never state / told that, they said they will try to bring it back the more similar to the old war they could.
Hence they are not crazy like old war official devs.

Nastylicious wrote: but tesq now you got that perma buff stuff on kotbs and chosen arent you happy about that ? what more do you need to have before you are happy jeeez


Don't you know how many issues auras had with twist?

-newby stuck to use mecc cos it require an add on to be used
-de-hide WE/WH
-increase agro
-not being able to use any movement proc (odjira/crystal/renow skill)
-not being able to twist while KD

As i don't see why any classes loose 2/3 of his mecc when KD and why some classes shouldn't benefith from some item in game. Then then other 3 issue are badder.
(edit: i never suggested this change in first place knowing that there are other classes that need better attentions, also it was nalgol in first place doing that, and when even aza talk about it i answered in the same way i did with nalg: " it should be fixed, but if ppl see it as a slighter buff dont make aura swap-able").


What i what? ...i never hidded my intention.

-FiX classes that require it SM/BO, SH/AM, Mag/Enigi + WL ( so that if i play others i dont hear 90% of time your class is op)
-cc fix realm (than mean even remove super punt from chosen so i'm suggesting a nerf to a my own class and the cc fix should be the first thing to be done imho)
-nerf kobs (main reason why my main class is stateted as op while chosen was the most nerfed classes in war history and is fine atm and the only two things that need a look are super punt and moral tactic. And i said that have respect for kobs player and even had speak with some of them on live.)
-better class mirroring.
-remove any pve/core skill from path of any classes
-nerf/fix things that state "ingore" in game or buff for %
-good skill have a "perfect" counter skill i.e shatter limbs /choppa fasta ( shatter limbs didn't gone to 2min coldown too when choppa fasta was nerfed ..why? if they where both 20 sec CD originaly, if 1 of those was OP --choppa fasta--, why not both got changed to be 2 min coldown ?)
-sov as last end game set cos t4 was better balance around that than doomr/warp ( ah and no more worn sov so)
-coherency with game system so, no things that were exploited in past, that could be exploited now or in future.

EDit: most of these things can be done by swap effect skill with each other, with few work ( no rework even on SH/AM) and no impact on client; imo what dev looking for.

OUT END
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Azarael
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#13 » Sat May 23, 2015 12:35 pm

Nastylicious wrote:i heard one time that the devs said they will bring back warhammer exactly how we left it or was that all a LIE ? i know there must be balanced stuff that mythic didn't fix for sure but tesq now you got that perma buff stuff on kotbs and chosen arent you happy about that ? what more do you need to have before you are happy jeeez
I don't recall seeing you participating in the thread about this very change, yet you seem utterly incensed about it.

Could you tell me what exactly is different from a Chosen using a macro in combination in Twister to automate the mechanic?

Nothing.

Changes only get through onto this server at the moment if they don't change the game significantly.

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Bozzax
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#14 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:18 pm

Libra wrote:The original style was actually to allow twinks enter LOTD through teleportation, being able to leech off RP from zone locks and kills from their warband members. I remember I was a Blazer at lvl 6 in T3 zone and reached RR 12 after 20 min of playing. Those were the days, haha.

Something says me that you ain't the experinced guy from the Release...
Something tell me you are a troll :lol:
amputationsaw wrote:how will you manage this? like how will you control that the player who gets the book only do PvE 8-)
Well if anyone xp off (rr off due to cap) twinks T3 at 31/31 I think most won't notice. Roleplayers or questers can have their fun
Gorwe wrote:Funny.

If you cut out T4 nobody would notice. It is a big zerg-o-rama anyhow without any rhyme and reason. T1-T3 = the best!
Feel free to stay forever in T3 as 31/31 and enjoy the game
Ley wrote:So then why go back to that? Aren't we all trying to NOT duplicate their mistakes? lol
Original tiers was better
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A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

Sulorie
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#15 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:24 pm

What are you doing, when 31/31 with bolster are killing your r39 chars?
Dying is no option.

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Bozzax
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#16 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:27 pm

Sulorie wrote:A perfect suggestion to keep players from doing rvr.
Big fights max renown, then you have to farm pve to level up faster.
Wondering why people look for solutions for non existing problems.
Level up faster? What you talk about? PVE ... who said anything about PVE?
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

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Bozzax
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#17 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:31 pm

Sulorie wrote:What are you doing, when 31/31 with bolster are killing your r39 chars?
So you assume bolster have to be implemented so a 31/31 are stronger then a 39?

PS I'd respawn and try learn something from it
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

Sulorie
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#18 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:31 pm

Bozzax wrote:
Sulorie wrote:A perfect suggestion to keep players from doing rvr.
Big fights max renown, then you have to farm pve to level up faster.
Wondering why people look for solutions for non existing problems.
Level up faster? What you talk about? PVE ... who said anything about PVE?
When RR is capped you need XP, got it? RvR is not the right place to farm XP. ;)
Dying is no option.

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Bozzax
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#19 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:34 pm

Sulorie wrote:
Bozzax wrote:
Sulorie wrote:A perfect suggestion to keep players from doing rvr.
Big fights max renown, then you have to farm pve to level up faster.
Wondering why people look for solutions for non existing problems.
Level up faster? What you talk about? PVE ... who said anything about PVE?
When RR is capped you need XP, got it? RvR is not the right place to farm XP. ;)
I farm XP in lake as you get both but I wouldn't object if you grind rats.

This was like the lamest ever argument .... it is just like did you even play? The whole reason for xp off book existing was that you solo killed 3 persons and leveled up.
A reasonable RvR system that could make the majority happy http://imgur.com/HL6cgl7

Sulorie
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Re: Petition RR cap == level cap

Post#20 » Sat May 23, 2015 2:40 pm

Bozzax wrote:
Sulorie wrote:What are you doing, when 31/31 with bolster are killing your r39 chars?
So you assume bolster have to be implemented so a 31/31 are stronger then a 39?

PS I'd respawn and try learn something from it
I doubt you learn anything, when you had trouble with low level chars in T3. :roll:
Invader set has slightly more stats than Conq and is not the best choice for all classes. Adding bolster gives r31 chars more stats.
I wish you would have a clue what you are talking about. All you see are evil twinks everywhere with bugged lotd weapons.


As you are telling all, that low rank chars are punished by high lvl twinks, I assume you want to level up faster to be competitive. This needs XP.
Dying is no option.

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