Return of Reckoning

tommydgun wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:51 pm hey i know im super late to this but here are my 2 cents...

1) witchbrew cant crit, doesnt scale with str and doesnt scale with any % damage (flanking, taste of blood, vanquisher set bonus, etc.) so going a full crit / % dmg build and then taking witchbrew is a complete waste. you would be better with your exact gear using oyk / ruthless assault with armor pen trait and elixir or going sacrificial stab and beefing up your agonizing wounds which hits harder than a finisher when it crits.

2) i have done the defensive build in a budget form and it still very much works. i have solo'd rr80+ slayers and WL easily as a rr60 and it always shocks them lol. i dont have lair jewels either. i usually run 2 points hp regen renown ability, same exact armor set described above and weapons, and full toughness talismans and pot + armor pot and also i put 3 levels of toughness renown for +72 toughness. you get 600ish toughness and 2k armor and the sustain with kiss of doom and sacrifices rewarded is insane. make sure you are using healing potions to supplement your regen. frenzied mayhem tactic is a must because its the only thing that boosts your witchbrew damage and the last tactic is up to you. brute force is okay, but witchbrew doesnt scale with str. i have found the blood lust builder to work pretty well for quickly getting witchbrew and then getting a 5 stack ruthless assault. i run some str on the gear to make up for not having brute force.

to answer your question str soft cap is 1050 or 1060 i think... it will show you on your character sheet with orange numbers. also the OYK spec is very good for city / warband play if you have a guard.

tommydgun wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:51 pm 1) witchbrew ... doesnt scale with any % damage (flanking, taste of blood, vanquisher set bonus, etc.)

Elemint wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:31 pm

tommydgun wrote: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:51 pm 1) witchbrew ... doesnt scale with any % damage (flanking, taste of blood, vanquisher set bonus, etc.)

No longer true

desizt wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:49 pm New WE ST meta:

RoR.builders - Witch Elf

Needs vanq+ gear and subj+ weapons to be more effective than witchbrew.

desizt wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:49 pm New WE ST meta:

RoR.builders - Witch Elf

Needs vanq+ gear and subj+ weapons to be more effective than witchbrew.

tommydgun wrote: since when? because i tested this the same day of post. Don't believe you are correct, sir.

desizt wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:17 pm For reference, RA build peaks at 1470 DPS
WB build peaks at 1420 DPS

And no, the ramp up time is just fine. Your AW crits are still strong while you are getting 5 points, and after that you will lash out some insane damage. You will get more stable kiss and subj procs with the increased AA speed and your 50% autoattack damage is no joke. I've been critting healers in cities for 900+ with just autoattacks.

Mix of Sov/Sent.

I said Vanq+ in a sense that it won't outperform Witchbrew unless you get high enough stats. Because Witchbrew doesn't scale with Strength, it's a great starter build.

This is the build I use for Cities to lead the assist train, to provide that extra ST pressure, PvE to bring bosses down quick and (rarely) in oRVR ganks, so far it has been working fine deleting stuff in oRVR ganks, but I rarely bother as I have other chars to play for oRvR.