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Re: Upsetting Khaine

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 7:55 pm
by Sulorie
Azarael wrote:Remind me what the correct values are, lest I invoke the wrath of God upon myself.
Spoiler:
Sulorie wrote:
Noticed the following behavior in this video:

http://youtu.be/1S-Pi0WZCOU

I guess there was no bolster buff to r45 in rvr at this time on test server, otherwise he had more HP, so his rank should be 40. But don't nail me down on this, he might be 41.

"->" indicates the dark magic value before and right after the cast.


lvl40, rr80:
100: 766 dmg
70->95: 306 dmg
70->80: 306 dmg
60-70: 306 dmg
40/50: 306 dmg (not clear which Surging Pain casts causes the backlash)
35->60: 306 dmg


At 70 dark magic we have the same backlash damage as on 35 to 60.

Values 70 and above become clear in this video:

http://youtu.be/5qHllwVUyoQ?t=1m5s


lvl39:
70->95 Gloomburst: 292 dmg (before the linked time stamp in the video)
75->85 Doombolt: 585 dmg
85->100 Gloomburst: 585 dmg
100 Impending Doom: 732 dmg


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Summary:
Before we talk about the damage calculation, we have to be sure about the damage steps and their range.
Both videos show similarities in the damage values on certain verified comb/dm levels.

35 to 70 = ~300 damage
75 to 85 = ~600 damage
90(?)-100 = ~750 damage

Now I give you something to think.

Dhar levels:
1-10
11-30
31-70
71-90
91-100

Dhar level 1-10 and 11-30 have a backlash chance of 4% and 8%, so it is unlikely to get video evidence for the values.

The damage steps are quite similar to Dhar levels as you can see. Honestly I would say they are the same.
What is missing is the base damage per rank but this quite easy as we only need evidence for some ranks and use a linear interpolation.
There are 5 damage steps.

Taking the middle step as base we get:
Rank 15: 332 damage on 100 DM (~2,5x multiplier), leads to 132 base damage on that rank.
Rank 39: 732 damage on 100 DM (~2,5x multiplier), leads to 292 base damage on that rank

Both lowest steps have a 1/2 and 1/4 multiplier.

Re: Upsetting Khaine

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:00 pm
by Azarael
It would appear that the damage is identical to that of Meltdown, then:

75
150
300
600
750

Re: Upsetting Khaine

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:04 pm
by Sulorie
Pretty much the same, yes.
It just needs a linear scaling on char rank. Maybe you already have that for Meltdown damage.

Re: Upsetting Khaine

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 8:06 pm
by Azarael
I lerp between min and max values (from 1-40), but yeah, I'll do that.

Re: Upsetting Khaine

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:19 pm
by Mez
I have lots of sorc videos and I tried to break down as easily as possible, w/ video proof

http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 120#p29596

Re: Upsetting Khaine

Posted: Sun May 17, 2015 7:23 pm
by Sulorie
Mez wrote:I have lots of sorc videos and I tried to break down as easily as possible, w/ video proof

http://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/ ... 120#p29596
In the same thread you find some correct values a few posts down. I think we know at this point how it has to be. :)