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Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:33 am
by satekh
I think I might be decent, or at least I'd love to be, probably bad, really. :D

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:41 am
by Razid1987
satekh wrote:I think I might be decent, or at least I'd love to be, probably bad, really. :D
Nah, you're great, mate! <3

(Where is great on the list!????)

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:41 pm
by jonathanmurphy3
6-mans of semi-organised players (pugs) beating organised 6-mans/zergs = top of foodchain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gEDtoQBu9w

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:45 pm
by Stinkyweed
A 15-tier scale? How about a 10-tier scale...unless you can give some definition and examples of really good through pro.

I also think I'd rather be an okay than a bad! Lol!!

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:10 pm
by jonathanmurphy3
A true pro is someone who knows his class inside out, who can lead people in coordinated 6-mans/warbands, who can duel with his class. that's my take anyway

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:24 pm
by noisestorm
jonathanmurphy3 wrote:A true pro is someone who knows his class inside out, who can lead people in coordinated 6-mans/warbands, who can duel with his class. that's my take anyway
Who can duel and win those fights,that he normally shouldnt :>

My former Guildmaster was quite a good Warband(sometimes also Dual or Triple WBs)-leader and had a pretty good knowledge about what he was doing, but he wasnt as suited for 6v6 fights like my own small group i had. On the other hand there are ppl who can lead 6mans (but not Warbands/Zergs) that i'd still consider Pro. But well, theres missing one Type of person in this foodchain. The person that ain't a pro, but everyone likes to play with, since hes still pretty decent/nice/cute/funny or whatever. What i mean is that normally Pros only play with Pros, while zerglings play with other pugs/zergers. But there are sometimes ppl who get 'carried' from other Pros simply for the person he/she is :P

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:02 pm
by Penril
jonathanmurphy3 wrote:A true pro is someone who knows his class inside out, who can lead people in coordinated 6-mans/warbands, who can duel with his class. that's my take anyway
Dueling doesn't count. Seriously. Mostly because some classes are stupidly broken or OP in 1v1.

I was killing rr100 sorcs on my rr40 AM. Does that mean i am a pro? Does that mean the other guy was terrible? No, it just means AMs are >>>>>>>>>> Sorcs in 1v1.

I do however agree with the first part of your post, specially the "leading people" part. There is nothing more satisfying than running in a group, getting wiped, ask everyone "what spec are you running?", notice they have a TERRIBLE spec, teach them to spec properly, tell them what skills and targets should be a priority in a fight, then fighting against the ones who wiped you, and kicking their asses.

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:17 pm
by jonathanmurphy3
^ you should have tried dueling my brother Neuropol. Don't think he ever failed to maintain a 50%+ win ratio against AMs. it's all about the player. and most sorcs were very bad.

agreed on the rest.

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:18 pm
by Azarael
Here we go with the "duelling is balanced" gig.

Re: The PvP foodchain

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:18 pm
by jonathanmurphy3
Nah not that, it's just you can't duel one person of class X, beat them, and assume that class Y > X based on bad examples of class X.