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Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 3:40 pm
by nebelwerfer
I can confirm black orcs and black guards can on occasion defend against a rampaged slayer.
idk what causes this, it's fairly rare. But it does happen.
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:09 pm
by OldSparky
Can something like BGs Elite Training or BO's Morale1 allow that though?
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 am
by Acidic
Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:35 pm
Just tested against all def morale on dev, rampage bypass 100% parry and block.
Ouch quite impressive for a 5point skill
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 6:26 am
by Grunbag
Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 am
Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:35 pm
Just tested against all def morale on dev, rampage bypass 100% parry and block.
Ouch quite impressive for a 5point skill
Indeed
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:09 am
by mubbl
Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 am
Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:35 pm
Just tested against all def morale on dev, rampage bypass 100% parry and block.
Ouch quite impressive for a 5point skill
yes and no, since its count as finisher you lose all of you rage and you just get 5 rage per second in combat , if tool tip is right. Pretty huge drawback for a skill which is a nice setup to do dmg in large scale. So that means that you need to slot Power Throught, which is another skill point and drawback cause you lose a tactic slot. which makes you choose between either one of the stat tactics or crit dmg(must be skilled) or increased aoe target cap for standard aoe(must be skilled and have 20% dmg drawback) or cd reduction(must be skilled). Even rampage makes 1v1 easy mode, it really shines in large scale battles situational, but it is not for free. For full rampage duration with power throught, you need a wind up of 15 secs.
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:28 am
by Acidic
mubbl wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:09 am
Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 am
Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:35 pm
Just tested against all def morale on dev, rampage bypass 100% parry and block.
Ouch quite impressive for a 5point skill
yes and no, since its count as finisher you lose all of you rage and you just get 5 rage per second in combat , if tool tip is right. Pretty huge drawback for a skill which is a nice setup to do dmg in large scale. So that means that you need to slot Power Throught, which is another skill point and drawback cause you lose a tactic slot. which makes you choose between either one of the stat tactics or crit dmg(must be skilled) or increased aoe target cap for standard aoe(must be skilled and have 20% dmg drawback) or cd reduction(must be skilled). Even rampage makes 1v1 easy mode, it really shines in large scale battles situational, but it is not for free. For full rampage duration with power throught, you need a wind up of 15 secs.
made me smile, a5pt skill to base a build upon. Oops maybe a tad low in the tree
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:41 am
by Wdova
Grunbag wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 6:26 am
Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 am
Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:35 pm
Just tested against all def morale on dev, rampage bypass 100% parry and block.
Ouch quite impressive for a 5point skill
Indeed
Well, its self buff, can be shattered, exhaust your rage, works only against tanks, mdps and has zero impact against rangeds and healers who dont stack parry/block
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:33 am
by Aceboltz
Rampage allows stupid stuff like a single slayer shutting down an entiere tank wall by putting SL on all of them with 100% succes rate thus preventing them to spam HTL.
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:22 pm
by Tesq
mubbl wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 9:09 am
Acidic wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 5:50 am
Grunbag wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 3:35 pm
Just tested against all def morale on dev, rampage bypass 100% parry and block.
Ouch quite impressive for a 5point skill
yes and no, since its count as finisher you lose all of you rage and you just get 5 rage per second in combat , if tool tip is right. Pretty huge drawback for a skill which is a nice setup to do dmg in large scale. So that means that you need to slot Power Throught, which is another skill point and drawback cause you lose a tactic slot. which makes you choose between either one of the stat tactics or crit dmg(must be skilled) or increased aoe target cap for standard aoe(must be skilled and have 20% dmg drawback) or cd reduction(must be skilled). Even rampage makes 1v1 easy mode, it really shines in large scale battles situational, but it is not for free. For full rampage duration with power throught, you need a wind up of 15 secs.
Its more than for free is a pure buff
-loosing a Medium of 30%parry = 30% dmg more
-You loose 25%
-you can average dmg output +5%
-after 5 sec its 30% dmg output more than not use rampage
50% dmg output in red vs 80% dmg output in red with rampage .
And all CC effect such aoe CD increase and aoe snare are undefeatable.
And this thing is up 2/3 of time or 3/3 with tactic.
Most notaceable effect on orvr des front line.
The more the enemy "invest" the better the 5 pt skill return became. It's a Dirty proportional thing like this.
Re: Rampage Question
Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 2:11 pm
by Grunbag
choppa and slayer wasn't designed to be Line Breakers according to mythic ?