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Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:39 am
by Manatikik
Ysaran wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:46 am
Manatikik wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:39 am
Nameless wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 5:35 am
It should be possible to parry it, at least on paper. No idea if it is working properly
Currently it cannot be parried/dodged/disrupted.
are you sure you cant parry it? can you give me the source?
Tested tonight with MDPS M1 so it definitely cannot be Parry/Dodge and with the amount of Disrupt vs a Choppa's int they would never get one (thats more an intuitive assumption than something i can 100% test like the previous two).
Just seems like an oversight with the buffs to it; before it was short enough/niche enough that being undefendable made sense, now it doesn't really but i'm not in charge of balance so.
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:48 am
by Ysaran
Manatikik wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 8:39 am
Ysaran wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:46 am
Manatikik wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 7:39 am
Currently it cannot be parried/dodged/disrupted.
are you sure you cant parry it? can you give me the source?
Tested tonight with MDPS M1 so it definitely cannot be Parry/Dodge and with the amount of Disrupt vs a Choppa's int they would never get one (thats more an intuitive assumption than something i can 100% test like the previous two).
Just seems like an oversight with the buffs to it; before it was short enough/niche enough that being undefendable made sense, now it doesn't really but i'm not in charge of balance so.
i was quite sure it could be parried/blocked, i will make some test too. thank you for the testing!
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:08 am
by Panodil
Its like zealot punt?
Damage is defendable but not the cc
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:47 am
by Warfare80
Panodil wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 9:08 am
Its like zealot punt?
Damage is defendable but not the cc
Oh yeah thats also something VERY annoying. It is wrecking the defensive/offensive lines in WBs hehe,and there is nothing you can do about it.
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:36 pm
by Phantasm
WTB video with zealot and choppa in one spot doing their "magic" and a dwarf as a dummy - 50g
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 1:27 pm
by bulgy70
This topic is so funny, crying over the chopper pull, when order have been rolling desto for the last 9 months. I find it so funny that the order players forget how bad the magus rift is to the Eng pull.
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:12 pm
by Warfare80
bulgy70 wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 1:27 pm
This topic is so funny, crying over the chopper pull, when order have been rolling desto for the last 9 months. I find it so funny that the order players forget how bad the magus rift is to the Eng pull.
No this is not a crying thread,and we do not need angry trolls who are trying to start some drama. Please just stop it,and focus that attitude on something less rude.
Regards,
Warfare80
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:25 pm
by CountTalabecland
Is the undefendable part a recent change/patch or is it a bug? I recall when the pull first got its range extended people told me to “just parry it.” Were they wrong or did this change at some point?
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:35 pm
by bulgy70
Warfare80 wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 2:12 pm
bulgy70 wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 1:27 pm
This topic is so funny, crying over the chopper pull, when order have been rolling desto for the last 9 months. I find it so funny that the order players forget how bad the magus rift is to the Eng pull.
No this is not a crying thread,and we do not need angry trolls who are trying to start some drama. Please just stop it,and focus that attitude on something less rude.
Regards,
Warfare80
I am not trolling, i am just stateing the facts, if you don't like to hear the turth. The facts are this, Order have a better pull with the eng, and that is fact. Order have been rolling desto for 9 months, that is also fact.
Order coming in here crying over the chopper pull is very funny, when you look at what order have to what desto has,
Re: Choppa pull undefendable?
Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:40 pm
by peterthepan3
bulgy70 wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 2:35 pm
Warfare80 wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 2:12 pm
bulgy70 wrote: Mon May 06, 2019 1:27 pm
This topic is so funny, crying over the chopper pull, when order have been rolling desto for the last 9 months. I find it so funny that the order players forget how bad the magus rift is to the Eng pull.
No this is not a crying thread,and we do not need angry trolls who are trying to start some drama. Please just stop it,and focus that attitude on something less rude.
Regards,
Warfare80
I am not trolling, i am just stateing the facts, if you don't like to hear the turth. The facts are this, Order have a better pull with the eng, and that is fact. Order have been rolling desto for 9 months, that is also fact.
Order coming in here crying over the chopper pull is very funny, when you look at what order have to what desto has,
Maybe it's about time that Destro warbands optimise their setups a la Phalanx, make use of everything they have at their disposal, stop bringing WEs and SnB BGs into their warbands, and realise the potential they have at their disposal
if they would but use it?
Coming up against constant zergs is one thing; not bothering to optimise your comps is another. From observation, I have seen Destro doing their fair share of zerging, too (and I don't recall having heard you complain when the odds were in your favour).
Are the likes of Phalanx, TUP, and DnD a thing of the past now? Such a shame if that is the case.