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Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:54 pm
by Lime
Should just flag tanks as tanks or toughness > 650 as tanks. Shield avoidance not needed for scenarios and is always an option to swap too even as a 2h spec if you get into an 18v18 deathball game.
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:14 pm
by Ashoris
Hargrim wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:40 am
2h tank is DPS. Enjoy!
Thanks for the clarification!
This is problematic for my part of view because it works directly against former design and balancing decisions for KotBS/Chosen.
One of the main job of a tank is punting, it is a key skill and ability (to have somone who properly punts often decides a whole scenario).
With the design decision to reduce the punt cooldown on 2h only - the tank is "forced" (because punt is that strong) to play 2h even if they do not want to be a DPS - therefore MANY KotBS/Chosen are 2h but as tanky as possible.
So in a scenario enviroment the design decision "forces" tanks to play 2H to fulfill their tank role as best as possible but afterwards they are treated as DPS in the queue ?
(me personally would prefer to play SnB stylewise, but the design changes made 2h just better for tankplay in non WB Enviroments)
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 pm
by Glorian
I have understood that 2H tanks are Dps.
But is there also the regulation that Dps healers are also dps, or are they still counted as healers?
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:27 pm
by peterthepan3
Glorian wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:17 pm
I have understood that 2H tanks are Dps.
But is there also the regulation that Dps healers are also dps, or are they still counted as healers?
Iirc DPS Healers are counted as DPS (rightly so).
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:28 pm
by geezereur
why change something that was already working? sc pop taking hella time to pop atm only to benefit a minority.
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:59 pm
by Glorian
geezereur wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:28 pm
why change something that was already working? sc pop taking hella time to pop atm only to benefit a minority.
Because it wasn't working.
Not 1 day online since 3 years that someone was complaining about only dps healers on his side, or only tanks on the other side.
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:25 pm
by Nishka
Hargrim wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:40 am
2h tank is DPS. Enjoy!
Then you can bypass it by equipping a shield and then changing it to 2h once the scene started? And it's legal?
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:28 pm
by Glorian
Nishka wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:25 pm
Hargrim wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:40 am
2h tank is DPS. Enjoy!
Then you can bypass it by equipping a shield and then changing it to 2h once the scene started? And it's legal?
The thing is we don't know the exact formula how the server decides if you are a dps tank or a normal one. And the devs will not tell it either. My guess is they have a list for each career and some filters for it. Like stats and/or gear.
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:20 pm
by Akilinus
2h tanks are actually considered to be dps? By who and why
Re: SC queue and matchmaking system info request
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:49 pm
by Alubert
All 2h tanks are dps? Really?
I play 2h chosen becouse of u. You or me change super punt tact playable only on 2h?
You or me destroy morale pump tact making it completely non-playable? No point play snb anymore.
So im dps. Then show me dps with stats like my:
5,6K armor, 910 all resist, -15% chance to be crit, 830 tougnes, 9k wounds, avoid buffed - 78% parry/51% dodge/51% disrupt, -6% inc dmg (HC), and the most importand 3x mobility proc/tact (subj speed buff, speed buff after disrupt, unstoppable jaggernaut).
After all tanks job/skills:kd, stagger, super punt ect.
All of this doesnt matter becouse im 2h?
I think its tank definition.
Just please do not tell me that HTL spammer is a tank.