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Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:14 am
by Nidwin
Sulorie wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:35 am
bormo wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:19 am
I understand the mechanics of the witch. Many skills are not covered by crit. For them, only high speed helps. Especially for witchbrew.
You decide to reduce your overall dps for almost no gain, ok!
That's not going to be easy but may be something like the following could be playable at rr70+
https://officialrorbuilder.herokuapp.co ... ,5599,5603
Anni gear for +1 in Suffering for Elixir of Shadows
4th Tactic MoM
Opening from stealth (2/3 bloodlust)
AW till 5 bloodlust
SS (not puncture of course)
Elixir of shadows (2/3 bloodlust)
AW till 5 bloodlust
Witchbrew
AW
Clearly not going to be my cup of tea,
anyway.
edit 1
wrong finisher as first one (need another coffee it seems)
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:32 am
by Pkunk
Miszczu5647 wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:08 am
Harbinger is lvl 39. Lvl 40 and higher (SC weapon) have standard 2,4 speed. On AoR all WE daggers above lvl had standard speed 2,4 iirc. Maybe some unique one... Big maybe.
Ah yes, you are right. I am not sure if it was just a rumour but some said that new weapons are coming. If so,
will they still follow that speed pattern?
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:40 am
by Miszczu5647
Design processes is above me. I see new toys when you see them

Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:57 am
by Marawo
T4 Dwarf/Greenskin Influence Dagger is the only "fast" Dagger ive seen that's actually quite competitive, higher attack speed means your kisses proc more often and in some cases more important earlier.

M-power is quite strong in the current meta
and you can substitude it for 1 strength in terms of damage(not parry shred).
I use this dagger on my mainhand all the time in scenarios when i have Dok or Sorc grp members.
As for Witchbrew Procs, i tried to "skip" the proc and find out its icd, it must be below 0,9 sec.
I tried it with 80% AA haste from gear and MoM. (Not saying that this is viable though)
The Mahakira is imo BiS if you go for an attackspeed build that wants to burn through WB stacks as fast as possible.
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:03 pm
by Tankbeardz
bormo wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:19 am
I understand the mechanics of the witch. Many skills are not covered by crit. For them, only high speed helps. Especially for witchbrew.
Witchbrew has a 1 second ICD, if i remember correctly...not sure this does anything.
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:06 pm
by bormo
Is the cooldown distributed separately to each hand, or to both hands?
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:17 pm
by Panzerkasper
bormo wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:06 pm
Is the cooldown distributed separately to each hand, or to both hands?
It's an internal cooldown of the skill. It is hardcoded to only proc only once every second.
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:39 pm
by Nidwin
I thought they removed or at least significantly lowered the ICD in a past patch.
If it truly is on 1s/WB-tic ICD then it's even less appealing to me.
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:51 pm
by WExWH
witchbrew icd is 0.5sec, fast weaps are interesting for trigger more often kiss and faster witchbrew
Re: [WE] Quick daggers
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:17 pm
by Panzerkasper
Nidwin wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:39 pm
I thought they removed or at least significantly lowered the ICD in a past patch.
If it truly is on 1s/WB-tic ICD then it's even less appealing to me.
A quick search gave this
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=28062&hilit=Witchbrew
Seems to be 0.5 second now.