Return of Reckoning

Simple play order if you want easy, well built kits.
Play destro if you want the after thought of the devs from live, that kind of is messed with but all and all is the same. (We have various classes who cant hold a candle to their order counter part, BG and IB are examples. IB's can be little monsters while BG's while annoying and strong can't do the shenanigans their mirror can.)

Azerreth wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:01 am Simple play order if you want easy, well built kits.
Play destro if you want the after thought of the devs from live, that kind of is messed with but all and all is the same. (We have various classes who cant hold a candle to their order counter part, BG and IB are examples. IB's can be little monsters while BG's while annoying and strong can't do the shenanigans their mirror can.)

Except BG brings wounds debuff and crit buff. Longest KD in game and longest punt...

Azerreth wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:01 am Simple play order if you want easy, well built kits.
Play destro if you want the after thought of the devs from live, that kind of is messed with but all and all is the same. (We have various classes who cant hold a candle to their order counter part, BG and IB are examples. IB's can be little monsters while BG's while annoying and strong can't do the shenanigans their mirror can.)

You sound like a beginner. No offense.

As soon as I read OP’s Comment on WL (which btw have been heavily nerfed to the ground), knew it was going to be another destro complaining thread.

If you want to talk about dps that 1-2shot targets, just have a look at destro WitchElfs, Magus and Sorcs. Did I mention WEs?

/closethreat thanks.

Mythrendir wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:48 am If you want to talk about dps that 1-2shot targets, just have a look at destro WitchElfs, Magus and Sorcs. Did I mention WEs?

I doubt that you want to discuss anything, but anyway.

Not from point zero and not 1-2shots but on squishies

Full loaded Blood Lust Witch Elf in BiS gear should be able to
HRT (double critt) + 3 AW (at least 2 critts) -> 3 * 1.2s -> 3.6s

8 stacks Havoc/full critt specced Magus
BoC (critt) + MBF (critt) + SVF (Critt) + Thing debuff -> could do it and give the impression of getting insta 1-2-3 nuked.

Mythrendir wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:48 am As soon as I read OP’s Comment on WL (which btw have been heavily nerfed to the ground)

its still good

Mythrendir wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:48 am As soon as I read OP’s Comment on WL (which btw have been heavily nerfed to the ground), knew it was going to be another destro complaining thread.

If you want to talk about dps that 1-2shot targets, just have a look at destro WitchElfs, Magus and Sorcs. Did I mention WEs?

/closethreat thanks.

Nice bait mate.

Nidwin wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:12 am WH = NHL while WE = Speed Skating or WE = Figure Skating

When you open out of stealth
WE/Speed Skating (AWAWAWAWAW) > WH/NHL > WE/Figure Skating

WH strenghts vs WE strenghts
Repel Blasphemy
Atonement + Absolution
Burn Away Lies

WE/Speed Skating strenghts vs WH strenghts
When the stars align and in BiS full crit gear -> AWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAW till death

WE/Figure Skating strenghts vs WH strenghts
Fun and diversity but you lose a freaking amount of dps

What..... what did you just say lol. I get you seem to think WH is superior but you left more more confused then where I started.

Mythrendir wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:48 am As soon as I read OP’s Comment on WL (which btw have been heavily nerfed to the ground), knew it was going to be another destro complaining thread.

If you want to talk about dps that 1-2shot targets, just have a look at destro WitchElfs, Magus and Sorcs. Did I mention WEs?

/closethreat thanks.

I think you are misunderstanding the purpose of this thread. Please re-read my initial post.I wanted to create a thread for players rolling a new class to be able to distinguish play style differences between the mirrors. For instance, Zarbix just posted two class guide videos on the BW and Sorc. In it he said BW gets more utility, while Sorc gets more single target burst and he gave his reasoning. That is where I would like the discussion in this thread to go, not to complain and bitch about class balance. Thanks.

Sulorie wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:32 am

Azerreth wrote: Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:01 am Simple play order if you want easy, well built kits.
Play destro if you want the after thought of the devs from live, that kind of is messed with but all and all is the same. (We have various classes who cant hold a candle to their order counter part, BG and IB are examples. IB's can be little monsters while BG's while annoying and strong can't do the shenanigans their mirror can.)

You sound like a beginner. No offense.

If you cant see order is superior in their base kit, and the added gear scaling offers much more for them then destro.. you're part of the problem. Ask anyone who plays destro more then the average player, and you can see most encounters are completely unfair. Again Blackguards can't do what iron breakers do, thats why volo got his blackguard to max and quit playing him all together and stuck to IB is because he saw he couldn't do the same shenanigans because the kit is different.

But tell me more, show me Im wrong. Go get a video going of a blackguard soloing like volo, or hell any class that is not a magus, mara or Witch elf. Prove it and Ill relent, but good luck with the constant zerging and crazy bullshit. Again my mara is in full vanq and I can tell when someone doesn't know what they are doing and when they do.

Also nerf buttons does not help, as the version we have allows for bypass of the global cooldown. So that **** needs to go, if you cant play without nerf buttons then maybe you shouldn't be playing.

Also yes while BG's do bring that, they can't really without alot more effort secure a kill in their current state. Not as quickly as other class's as well a knight can trait to have a super punt which could be arguably the same length as a BG. And IB's cave in is also long as hell, so its not like order doesn't have a version of it on their side.

now I mean if we want to talk about stupid unfair shenanigans... lets talk about bugmans finest...