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Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:43 am
by Arbich
GoshDarn wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:53 pm
Arbich wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:25 pm Maybe use the old Flashfire tactic proc: next spell with casttime will be instant.
Or use the old crown of fire tactic (I think it was this tactic on live) proc: on being hit x% chance to stun the attacker for 1sec.
There was a collection about possible procs on sets for different classes. maybe look there?
I'm afraid sorc does not have the same tactics as BW.
Doesn´t matter. Just some ideas for 4piece vanq taken from old BW tactics. It would also work for sorc.
In contrary to you, I don´t think that the actual proc (0 AP for next spell) is useless. Sorc/BW are balanced around high combustion and garbage without it. So you should try to avoid to use the AP gain skill, if possible. But the 4 piece vanq proc is underwhelming in comparison to other 4 piece procs (for healers for example), so I would also prefer another proc.

The more horizontal approach in balancing the new sets is quite nice. It reduces the power creep and helps players with less time to play :D
(But please look also at the new talismans for sentinel rings in this case)

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:49 am
by Nidwin
Let's look at the first post from my point of view and how I understood it.

GoshDarn says
I want,
I know as I know because I know,
I want more and much better,
I don't care and you don't listen to me, clearly not,
I still want
He boys, do you also want like me because you'll know it like me?

To answer your question from my point of view
I opted for full Rare Fortune set on my Sorceress and I'm happy.

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 am
by wachlarz
Sub Weapon have this same buff Clarity like Armor set 4 part. So 2 same bonuses on 2 BIS items.

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 am
by Sulorie
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 am Sub Weapon have this same buff Clarity like Armor set 4 part. So 2 same bonuses on 2 BIS items.
Subj for sorc is as far from BiS as it can get.

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:30 am
by rmpl
When it comes to tanks conq>vanq so you are not alone.

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 am
by wachlarz
Sulorie wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 am
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 am Sub Weapon have this same buff Clarity like Armor set 4 part. So 2 same bonuses on 2 BIS items.
Subj for sorc is as far from BiS as it can get.
And what its better ?

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:54 am
by Manatikik
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 am
Sulorie wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 am
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:52 am Sub Weapon have this same buff Clarity like Armor set 4 part. So 2 same bonuses on 2 BIS items.
Subj for sorc is as far from BiS as it can get.
And what its better ?
45 SC weapon and T4 Dwarf staff iirc.

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:05 am
by kkprfx
Manatikik wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:54 am
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 am
Sulorie wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:26 am
Subj for sorc is as far from BiS as it can get.
And what its better ?
45 SC weapon and T4 Dwarf staff iirc.
Even gutslime is better

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:36 am
by Manatikik
kkprfx wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:05 am
Manatikik wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:54 am
wachlarz wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:52 am

And what its better ?
45 SC weapon and T4 Dwarf staff iirc.
Even gutslime is better
I thought so but couldn’t remember if the crit you lose was worth it.

Re: Sorc Vanquisher

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:22 pm
by Karryg
With the loss of 2% crit on vanq helmet I put the gutslime aside and use the 45rr sc staff again. (gutslime has the best dmg among all staffs but man we need crits!) :mrgreen: